Joshua compared to Wilder. Let`s get real!

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  1. KingFury64

    KingFury64 Active Member banned Full Member

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    Wilder first 17 opponents. :D

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  2. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Lets compare the two shall we?

    - Joshua has the better amateur pedigree
    - Better footwork
    - Better punching mechanics
    - more athletic and coordinated
    - better jab
    - more likely than not better punch resistance
     
  3. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Do you guys think that Linus Van Povetkin and his ****en big ass stadium party speaker brain compares? Povetkin has never beaten an elite fighter. Huck whooped his ass. His comp is trash too, and he took Meldonium after it was banned. Both Joshua and Wilder ko the ****en doofy looking Frankenstein Junior looking Chucky without the freckles, Galactus size head.
     
  4. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :rofl I'm getting flashbacks of Pedvetkin's face when he was getting hit by Klitschko, the look on his face. AJ vs Wilder, is the fight we need to see
     
  5. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Tell us why you don't like Povetkin, Fury, Klitschko, Parker, and Pulev again. I forgot!
     
  6. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You have to admit Povetkin's face expressions when he felt Klitschko's power (of which AJ/Wilder can match at minimum) is hilarious. I do believe all of the above except Klitschko (who I respect and rooted for when he was at his lowest point) are overrated to some degree, that's not dislike though.
     
  7. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What does this even mean? When Davey Moore fought Roberto Duran, Moore had 12 fights. Duran had 80.

    Would you determine who should win that fight based on who Duran beat in his first 12 fights compared to Moore's first 12?

    Of course not.

    Wilder is the WBC champ. Joshua is the IBF champ. Joshua was the more accomplished amateur. Wilder has more pro experience.

    Joshua was the Olympic champ and turned pro with a big TV deal and was promoted as a star. Wilder didn't turn pro with a TV deal, had to fight in non-descript places for the first five or six years of his career, and in comparison is much more unknown.

    Sugar Ray Leonard was a star when he turned pro, all his fights were on TV, and he won a title within his first three years as a pro. Marvin Hagler wasn't. He fought in obscurity for most of his early career and it took him 54 fights before he won a title.

    Guys' careers are guided differently depending on the circumstances. But once they are both champs at the same time, comparing the opponents in their first 12 or 16 fights is meaningless.

    It's how they match-up when they actually meet.

    However they got here, Wilder and Joshua are pretty evenly matched right now.
     
  8. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Comparing the opponents in their first 12-16 fights is meaningless??????
    How many pro fights has Lomachenko under his belt? How many did that American joke of a heavy weight champ Martin under his one have when he captured the world title?
    Wilder has an incredible amount of victories under his belt and an impressively high number of kos.However,if you have a closer look the situation is totally different.
    Joshua has been matched much tougher in his short pro career than Wilder.Therefore he should get credit for it.
    Lomachenko has had a hell of a career in the paid ranks so far.Far more impressive than most of the present champs with 45 plus victories under his belt.I for one truly appreciate tough match-making.
    Joshua hasnt been pampered and protected so far.The same cant be said about that American hype job Wilder.Thats for sure!
     
  9. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In almost every facet Joshua looks the better fighter. Form, movement, defense, discipline, ring generalship and offensive effectiveness. He is a bit cautious though. The right kind of fighter could exploit that but sadly right now I don't see anyone on the horizon at the moment that has that capability.

    Wilder would have a lot of trouble dealing with Joshua.

    I won't write Wilder off completely though. He does have a couple of intangibles. One, he looks comfortable in the ring and two, he has excellent stamina and energy.

    But right now I'd pick Joshua to school him on way to a decision or a late stoppage.
     
  10. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Agreed, even at this early stage of AJ's career I think he would beat Wilder. When I look at how he struggled with Duhaupas and imagine Joshua in Duhaupas' place I can't help but feel Joshua would walk right through Wilder, he's so open and sloppy with his shots.

    Wilder has a puncher chance and of course he's proven he can go the distance at a decent pace so he could always just outlast Joshua. But unless he has a far better chin than we suspect I can't see him surviving too long while taking AJ's power.
     
  11. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Fury and Wlad are still better than them both and still would beat both.

    :smoke