Joshua Hate?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by dellboi94, May 31, 2015.

  1. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

    Oct 18, 2009
    Get him in with someone, like Wach, that will near on 100% give him rounds and where he'll learn a lot about himself.

    Blowing people away may look great now, but there will come a time when he goes in with someone who can stand up to the power and present there own trouble - he needs to have that experience in the bank in that he's aware in his own mind he can do 12 rounds + take a good shot.

    I fully understand that in his first few fight, as a young heavyweight coming off the back of the Olympics win he needed a few fights where he can look explosive to build him up to the media, the fans etc. Those sort of fights should now be over and done with, kicking on now he needs fights where he'll learn and gain experience.

    Someone like Wach, who's got a ridiculous chin and a lot of experience, is who I'd like to see him in with. Wach from what I've seen of him doesn't have a tremendous offence which will cause AJ a **** load of danger but he'll certainly allow us to see how AJ can cope over the 12 round distance, how he can adapt when he can't blow someone away, being patient, putting shots together etc also make no mistake about it Wach would land as well so we'd get an idea about his ability to take a shot.
  2. destruction

    destruction Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Mar 26, 2009
    Joshua needs to fight someone on the fringes of world class, and as soon as possible. He has proven he can smash over any can, that stands in front of him flat footed, with no head movement. Now he needs a proper test- someone of the level of Arreola, Wach or Stiverne.

    I think the TBA he has planned in September will be another can that he will k.o inside 3 rounds, you do not get a good opponent out of a TBA.

    But from then its really not going to help him, if every opponent is so far below being a test. He is going to become demotivated and then we he does face a real test he will struggle.

    So I do not think anyone hates the bloke, the problem is more to do with the hype he is getting from beating up cans.
  3. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Mar 29, 2007
    Why do you assume it's an act?
  4. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

    Nov 24, 2005
    Kubrat Pulev, Joseph Parker, Bermane Stiverne, Tony Thompson would be pretty good opponents.
    Mariusz Wach, Chris Arreola, Manuel Charr, Alex Leapai would still be reasonable.
    Robert Helenius perhaps.

    Tyson Fury obviously, but he's not available.

    You say he's being brought along at "the correct pace" but it sounds like you just want him taking risk-free fights.
    And, no, I didn't rate David Price either. :good
    But I'd give him credit for fighting Thompson, though the rematch was a bad mistake on his manager's part.
  5. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

    Nov 24, 2005
    Bryant Jennings would be another good opponent.
    Jennings has only had 20 professionals fights, and he'd been an amateur for less than a year before that.
    He's a novice, but he just went 12 with the world's champion.

    Joshua v Jennings would make sense.
  6. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Nov 5, 2011
    I like him, but then again I haven't taken any notice of the hype. Reading casual fans comments and hype on twitter etc will only lead to frustration.
  7. colink24

    colink24 Member Full Member

    Mar 27, 2014
    In what way is he fake? I dont frequent these forums as much as the regulars, so just curious as to what his real personality is?!
  8. ant-man

    ant-man ant Full Member

    May 13, 2009
    Something isn't right when you have threads saying nasty things about him being pulled by the PR men..

    There were a couple of threads recently discussing whether or not he was on gear and they got removed just like that. That kind of paranoia isn't endearing and merely fuels further suspicion. :nono

    He's a beast though and I think he'll do very well, especially with Eddie's clout.
  9. MCFC_EW

    MCFC_EW Active Member Full Member

    Jul 4, 2014
    I like him and want him to win, but some of his fans and their shouts are ridiculous
  10. KaizerSauzee

    KaizerSauzee Member Full Member

    Dec 12, 2010
    I've never understood the hate. Maybe he will get exposed, maybe not, nobody can say yet. We should all however be hopeful he lives up to the hype and that we might have another top British heavy to enjoy watching.

    He has a lot to prove yet, but wanting him to fail instead of hoping he grows into a top heavyweight is crazy, people don't want exciting boxers anymore?

    Also personality wise, who gives one single ****? We are here because we like watching people fight, not to listen to them talk.
  11. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Feb 18, 2014
    Well Klitschko, Haye, larry Holmes and Wilder (plus loads more) are all convinced he will be world champion if he mantains his current progress. How many fights did Tyson have before he moved up to world level (just curious and lazy cos i cant be bothered looking it up !)
  12. Avon Barksdale

    Avon Barksdale Active Member Full Member

    Nov 20, 2013
    Mike Tyson had 27 fights before fighting for the world title
  13. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Feb 18, 2014
    and people thought he was being rushed (i know he was in terms of time and age) but that gives Joshua another 10 bouts at least before he NEEDs to be fighting the top level surely. Yes we all have questions about his chin and stamina but 13 fights into a career is not the time to start throwing into title bouts no matter what the fans think. Guys like Chisora and Price will not last anymore than 3/4 rounds either Joshua's best bet is to just spar 3/4 guys back to back without the headguard christ even let them wear small gloves better to find out your lilmitations in sparring than in a bout.
  14. smithshaun

    smithshaun Well-Known Member Full Member

    Oct 20, 2013
    I have to agree he has huge potential but I think people see through the media attention he is not being his own man and just saying things to please , wish we could see the real him a bit more
  15. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Feb 18, 2014

    Jeez boxing becomes more like big brother every day ... who cares how boring he is what he likes outta the ring judge him on what he does in it !! Social Media really does my nut in at times suddenly everyone has to come across well on camera ... fuk that $hit i dont tune into a fight to see what the guy has been doin at home who he hangs out with... All I care about is "seconds out"