joshua in last 4 year is disgrace

Come on mate.

I said good, not great.

If you’re literally asking me to list them, because you don’t know what they are, then it’s pointless to even continue.

To deny that he even has any GOOD wins is just ridiculous.

For some reason, you obviously have a deep dislike for him and his fans.

 

So it's Hearn's fault? Like it isn't AJ who pays Hearn? That was just an excuse.

For a man who rejects it - yes, I have no evidence, nor do I intend to prove anything to you.

 

I don't know what was unclear with my post, but I didn't say that he has cleaned house or anything, but he has always tried to make the big fights happen. Wilder in 2019, but Wilder turned down a record deal and then Joshua lost to Ruiz to make it a moot point anyways. Then Joshua was on course for an undisputed with Fury two years ago, but Wilder's rematch clause scuppered the whole thing. When that didn't work out he faced the next best thing at the time in Usyk, and of course lost.

His losses most likely mean that he will never be an ATG, but he and Usyk are the only ones who have consistently tried to make the right fights happen at HW. For me that has value no matter the eventual results.

 

It's fine if he gets in the ring with Whyte. Sure, at that point Whyte he is a Chisora/Franklin level opposition, but at least he is rebuilding. Once he gets in the ring with Wilder, win or loose, there is not much more you could want from his career bar a Fury fight. He gave Klitschko his swan song and a great goodbye fight, he beat the likes of Parker, Ruiz, and Whyte, which were the top contenders of his era, and showed that he can breeze through the B level opposition. His Usyk fights were a great watch the result notwithstanding.

Ideally, I'd like to see him get through Whyte, beat Wilder, and take on the winner of Usyk-Fury, or close a triology with Ruiz.

 

Ummm, have you seen his last fight? He needs at least 5 more franklins to get up to the task of taking on Whyte, never mind Fury.

 

Hmm, he fought Usyk twice...

 

Weird how wlad went from being apparently in his best form against fury to ready to retire only 18months later. What a surprise.

 

Funny you include Whyte because Fury beat him easily last year at a more prime stage in his career and got no credit for it.

 

Ans Fury still wouldn’t fight him

 

I dont really care for either fighter to be honest, unlike you who has fury’s Phallus in your mouth at every opportunity.
Yes he was obviously ready to retire after Joshua, just as he was before the fury fight given that he was only 3 months shy of 40 and 67 fights into his career.

Nobody is in their best form at that age at any sport.

 

Hes not a disgrace. Hes done. Usyk destroyed what remained of his mind after Ruiz.

 

Joshua told him to move with things as soon as possible. He signed straight away. That was documented everywhere at the time. Joshua had signed, but there were many other things left to negotiate. Then we had Fury’s timelines etc. But yes, it’s my opinion that Hearn stalled the negotiations. But that was last year. And like other posters have noted, they’d tried to fight Fury and Wilder at other points in time. That was also well documented. Or are you going to clearly ignore that?

You said that he ducked those guys, yet you can’t back up your claims.