joshua in last 4 year is disgrace

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  1. BM237

    BM237 Member banned Full Member

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    lol yea sure everyone is ducking fury ,wlad ducked rematch , then very last minute Ustinov ran from fighting mighty Luke, then Usyk, AJ, Ruiz .
    And btw AJ actually fought much better competition than your hero.
     
  2. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah if you look at the likes and certain people posts, Fury fans on here have a secret communication, going on a rant against Usyk and AJ, to distract us from Fury once again shamefully is ducking Usyk.

    They are even playing the "victim" card now.

    If AJ or his resume is a disgrace, then what we can say about the rest ? Best resume in the division by far. Fought everyone, and ducked no one.
    Let's hope Wilder will not duck him once again the December fight happen.
    Then we will see who is a disgrace.
     
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  3. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Cope & seethe

    Just because Fury is going to decimate Usyk and make AJ look like an even bigger bum than he is.
     
  4. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    “When you were going through your darkest time, I told you that if you got yourself together I would give you a title shot. Being a man of my word, I gave you the title shot,” he said.

    “When that fight was a draw, I told you that I would give you a rematch. You know I was offered more money to fight Joshua than I was getting to fight you. Again being a man of my word, I fought you like I said I would.”

    And this is from AJ:
    “We offered him a fight for the undisputed championship of the world and he went down the route of fighting Fury. I’m glad we can clear that up and move on. As time goes on, it will all come to fruition and make sense.”


    Wilder was offered 100m. by Dazn to fight AJ and he ducked it.
    The so call 50 million offer was debunked million times already to be false.
    “They come on, they make an offer. Deontay Wilder makes an offer, not Shelly Finkel, not Al Haymon. $50million, it’s a lot of money. We’re definitely interested in that but obviously the devil is in the detail.

    “I go back to Deontay Wilder by e-mail, I can’t tell you word from word, ‘Dear Deontay, we’re very interested in this fight, it’s the one we want next. We’re very interested in your offer. Obviously there’s lots to discuss. Please send us a draft contract, we’ll come back to you as soon as possible.’

    “He replies: ‘We’re not going to send you a contract until you agree to the deal.’ Have you ever heard so much bulls**t in your life? Then Shelly Finkel who I’m supposed to see on Thursday cancels the meeting and says we’ll meet on Friday.

    Nice try though. But why exactly you provided link to Tyson Fury PR team, aka Talksport, and article with what Frank Warren, who is Fury promoter, exactly?
    This somehow adds to the credibility of the story you are pushing ?

    I mean i don't even need to add anything. Wilder himself said that he ducked Anthony Joshua. He admitted it.

    And if this isn't enough:
    More exposer:
    [url]https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/wilders-50-000-000-offer-to-joshua-exposed-lack-of-funding.613459/[/url]
     
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  5. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is this what happens when a grammar nazi finally snaps?
     
  6. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Most overrated fighter in recent memory
    A carefully manufactured career and match room should take credit

    Heartless bodybuilder is afraid to get hit and hasn't the heart to match his synthetic muscles
     
  7. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is the biggest glaring flaw in these weird cult like matchroom fans is that they have to somehow make a case that:

    eleven year undefeated, active super champion VLADD fighting in his own backyard with his own ref and judges who fury schooled

    was somehow a worse version of VLADD than the

    one win in three years, 18 months inactive, coming off a loss, beltless, flown in to Wembley for a retirement payday, 18 months older and never fought again version who Joshua went life and death with

    the fact that shot old retired away from home version performed better against Joshua than the eleven year undefeated eighteen months younger active super champion at home version did against fury has everything to do with the respective levels of fury and joshua and nothing to do with “VLADD looked at his best ever against Joshua”

    VLADD is the only heavyweight champ in history who apparently saved his career best performance for his last fight. No, he was in against a chinny gutless hypejob who was begging to be finished and he bottled finishing the job that fat andy did instead.
     
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  8. BM237

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    most overrated is Fury.
     
  9. Ex Army Jim 39

    Ex Army Jim 39 couldnt believe the price of chairs banned Full Member

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    see this is what i want to say and you are able to put it down in a message better that is a fantastic post to read mate i cant tell you how brilliant that was you raise a good point you said that vladimir was only boxer to ever be at best in final fight lol thats what theyd make you think them fans wouldnt they let me raise you a glass wig your always worth a read clued up
     
  10. Ex Army Jim 39

    Ex Army Jim 39 couldnt believe the price of chairs banned Full Member

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    your right mate remember they messed him about also last year joshua had no trainer he had no oomf to get in ring with tyson fury
     
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  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You have no concept of anything.

    The offer was put to Joshua. He agreed immediately. They signed the DRAFT contracts in principle, but were waiting on many other things to be signed and agreed to, such as the commercial deals etc, as well as a final contract after everything had been agreed to. It was going to be a huge fight, for huge PPV. If you do some research, you’ll find all of the interviews with Frank and George Warren, as well as with Eddie Hearn, plus all of the back and forth interviews on Talk Sport with Gareth Davis etc. There were conflicting reports coming from either camp. It then got messy when Tyson issued deadlines. After that, contact was lost between Matchroom and Queensbury. It is of my opinion, that Eddie stalled things because he didn’t want to put Joshua in the fight. That is my honest opinion. But Joshua agreed to it. Both Joshua and Hearn stated that he’d agreed to it, and he was happy with the date and everything else. But nothing was OFFICIALLY agreed on both sides, where the FINAL contracts were signed, hence no fight. They never reached that point.

    You’re one of the worst posters on here, branding professional fighters as being cowards etc, and you have no real knowledge of the sport, or what happens behind the scenes etc.

    Once again, fights with Wilder and Fury were also tried to be made at various other times.

    Now if you want people to believe that Joshua ducked those fights, then put something on here to back up your argument.

    If not, move along.
     
  12. MAD_PIGE0N

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    You're just the same pathetic philosopher as lordlosh, keep believing how rightful and knowledgable you are, yet I'm sure you're clueless about how to even wrap your hands.

    Signing a draft contract and waiting on other things to be added - hahaha! What a joker! You really "have a concept" though. 38 000 posts and 7000 likes are how other posters find you in a way. Now you're free not to interact with me and live in your world.


    Typical stupidity of an anti-Fury type of guy.
     
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  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I never bought the hype.

    He was built for the casuals.

    Eddie did a great job with him.

    You can’t call him heartless though. There is no proof of that. In fact, quite the opposite. He came unstuck simply by being beaten by a great fighter in Usyk, and by a difficult stylistic match up with Ruiz. But he tried his best. And he took immediate rematches for those fights which he didn’t have to take.

    Also, it goes without saying that no fighter is heartless. You can call fighters cautious. But not heartless. That’s just silly and disrespectful.
     
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  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    That’s because they have no concept of the stylistic match ups.

    We used to have threads on here often, saying things like:

    “If Fury had fought the version of Wlad that AJ did, then……”

    I’ve argued with posters many times.

    It was a far easier stylistic fight against Joshua, where Wlad was also in a position where he had nothing to lose and everything to gain.

    If Wlad had gone with different tactics, where Vitali hadn’t have been as cautious, he could definitely have finished Joshua. That’s something that Wlad will always regret.

    I agree with your post, apart from the fact that Tyson didn’t school Wlad in Germany. He did do a complete psyche job on him though, both inside and outside of the ring.
     
  15. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Give it a rest Joshua blatantly ducked that.
     
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