You’re a garbage poster, with zero knowledge and zero credibility. You don’t add anything to any thread. If me and Lord Losh are pathetic philosophers, then FEEL FREE to come and REFUTE what we’ve written. It should be easy enough for you to do. So come and lay out your evidence. We’ll wait. Regarding the likes, when you have to comment on things like that, then you really are desperate. But just to inform you, I haven’t made that many posts. A number of years ago now, we had a huge crash on the site, and at the time, it doubled everyone’s post count. Also, the ‘like’ option isn’t that old either. It’s only been around a few years. Now I honestly wouldn’t care if I didn’t have any likes. I don’t need that attention. I don’t need my ego massaged like some. Now I shouldn’t have to justify myself to a nobody like you, but I’m just putting you straight, just so you don’t post any more of these cringeworthy comments to anybody else. Now this is the last time I’m going to tell you this: Either come and refute my points, or jog on. If you think that you can, then I’m here waiting. If you can’t, then don’t bother engaging with me again.
What do you bring to the discussions? What is your "credibility"? As for the knowledge that is already clear is of the level of an unintelligent person - I'd like to sign a contract with you - will send you a draft to sign, then I'll add whatever... "Things like that" just show your... "credibility" maybe and how others see your quality of posting and knowledge. Seems like this fact touched you unpleasantly, it wasn't difficult to do, you're just too simple. What I will post and to whoever I post is absolutely my decision, you have to be an utter infantile to go with something like "you don’t post any more of these cringeworthy comments to anybody" - it isn't me chasing you around topics and telling you how much I know, how you've no idea and how bad your statements are, you d*lt, it is you who does it, so to say - you engage with me instead of ignore me either not reading my posts or put me on ignore list. But there it is - the very ego of yours that indeed needs a "massage". From now on, I am leaving you barking over my posts.
He did not duck it. The draft contracts were signed. Joshua was happy with his part of the contract. Look, Joshua was a media hype job, but there’s never been any evidence of him ducking anybody. Fighters don’t just sign contracts, then all of a sudden the fight suddenly appears. I’m sure that you know that. It’s a very complex business, which is why the majority of the time the big fights take an age to make. Both Hearn and George Warren have said that the draft contracts were sent and signed off. Hearn then had certain other stipulations, before the commercial deals were finalised. A deal can ONLY be made, when all parties are happy, and both have signed FINAL contracts that are legally binding. That is what has to happen for the fights to be made. Both fighters have to sign the final contracts. Both promoters have to sign. The TV networks and all of the other various companies involved have to sign. Only then can the fight happen. The fight didn’t happen, because they never got to that final stage. Tyson issued deadlines. George and Frank Warren then had to talk Tyson into extending it. It then dragged on a little before Tyson’s side lost all patience and moved on. I can’t prove it, but I believe 100% that Hearn deliberately stalled things, as putting Joshua in with Tyson after back to back defeats to Usyk made no sense. But nothing from that sorry saga tells me that it was Joshua who didn’t want the fight. You can go back and watch various interviews from a number of people. Nobody thought that Joshua was stalling. He was happy with the date and the split etc. He agreed in principle by signing the draft contract.
Another NOTHING post. I have broken down what happens behind the scenes and how contracts are dealt with, as you obviously have zero idea. Your posts are absolutely cringeworthy, as your knowledge on this subject is so limited. You have labelled two professional fighters as being COWARDS. You have added NOTHING to this debate, or any other that I’ve seen you in. You have insulted me and Lord Losh, but when you have been called upon to put forward some EVIDENCE to REFUTE our posts, you have provided us both with NOTHING. The reason you have provided us with NOTHING, is because you don’t have ANYTHING. I’m not going to have a back and forth with you. We could do this all night long. You simply haven’t got the required level of intellect in order to debate these topics. So I’m not going to lower myself anymore by giving you any more attention, which you don’t in any way deserve. Anybody labelling fighters as being cowards, shouldn’t even be able to have an account on here. Unless you desperately crave the last word, then don’t reply to me again. Go and put your time to better use. Go and educate yourself.
Thread has caught fire. Jim is an alt of Safin though? That’s a step too far for me.. yeah I’ve got to agree that pro fighters aren’t cowards. However the proof is in the pudding with who they actually get in the ring with and fight: Joshuas promoter has conditioned boxing fans to talk about contracts and splits and a side b side and emails and he said she said gossipy bickering rather than actual fights. The facts remain, Joshua has FAILED to get in a ring with any of the top five big dogs: Fury Wilder Joyce ZHANg Dubois he only shared the ring with the midget feather fisted cruiser after USKY struggled with shot to pieces old delboy chisora, Joshua’s team probably thought usky was close enough to ajs usual level of bum opponent for him to bully and get the nod. Joshua’s promoter will tell you of course that the ONLY reason Joshua has avoided ALL of the top guys is that NONE OF THEM want the fight koogs! so we have to fight jermall FRANKHAM level bums instead. joshuas team have less faith in him than he does himself. Kid is a busted flush.
You're metaphor is lame. Fury & Wilder's 3 fights were much more than "circling one another". Wilder forced #3 which I, like many others, thought was semi unnecessary. But it was an entertaining fight - all three were. They've also fought others with very much a pulse. Whyte & Helenius certainly have pulses and for much of their careers were top HWs. You can spin events many ways. Like Whyte & Helenius getting KO'd shows how good Fury & Wilder are. Like so many on sports forums, you think exaggerating to make your point makes it more effective. Maybe to low brows. I can do the same to AJ. After circling Usyk twice, and losing, he fights someone with hardly a pulse (Franklin), a disgrace! Why not fight Wallin, Hrgović, or give Ruiz a deserved #3?? I like AJ, he's generally taken his losses like a good sportsman. On the other hand, Wilder is a sore loser. But if fight with AJ involving a big name doesn't come off, it's always the other fighters fault. AJ gets more passes and excuses than Fury or Wilder. Why? Maybe his core fan base is very loyal and defensive.
Straw manning. I've never implied or even barely hinted that Fury v Usyk isn't the fight. You didn't address when AJs big fights don't come off it's always the other fighters fault. But w/ Fury or Wilder it's mostly their fault. AJs excuses are golden, others fighters are crap. Not in this thread, his name is even in the title Most threads are lol. Is classic whataboutism greater then typical whataboutism?
What you choose to believe about Anthony Joshua is your opinion and I'm not losing any sleep over it. I couldn't care less. My post was regarding the reason for the thread. The heats on Fury atm and his fans are on the defensive and what better way to hide from the criticism than to change the subject, we all know people like a whinge over Joshua. Instead of feeling small and weak the Fury fan back in the zone firing shots at Joshy. Each to their own I guess.
Lol arguing with a moron. Put him on your ignore list like I did; the quality of your like will get better immediately.
He's an excellent HW who doesn't get his dues from ungrateful fans that would rather watch a hypejob endlessly pad his record with bums and duck all legitimate threats so they can have them winning mythical matchup fights. Yes he hasn't had any outstanding wins in the last four years but what top HW has? Wilder twice got his turds pushed in by a fat alcoholic in between KOing a 50 year old never-was, a Breazealian punchbag and a Viking scuba diver. Fury beat an American bum beater masquerading as champ in between a string of no-names, uppercut magnets and washed up wheeler dealers from Peckham. Whyte needed two goes to knock out an ancient Russian Boris Johnson lookalike in between eating the uppercuts of a blind Colombian bodybuilder and a fat Gypsy fighting on autopilot and getting a gift against the same Franklin that Joshua whitewashed with ease. Only the sublime Usyk can claim to have any glory in the ring, with his back to back wins against the number one HW in the world which is enough to beat all of the above jokers.