Joshua is clearly ducking Fury

You've still not replied to the fact that it's ON VIDEO that Fury blatantly ducked Joshua. Or responded to why Joshua has signed to fight Fury multiple times over the years. You keep talking around in circles about nothing.

 

Just the usual circus with Fury.....sounds like they BOTH want more money and all the Fury talk of AJ ducking is utter BS

The fight will happen

 

This whole division is made up of Ducks, dinosaurs and club fighters, geez look at the division:
Usyk is 39
Fury --- 38
Joshua- 37
Wilder-- 41
Zhang - 43
Chisora 43
Hrgovic 34
Kabayel 33
Dubois is what 28?
Itauma is the only hope this division has for any life at all, the rest is Dead....
and they'll avoid him like Syphilis

 

The impression I get is that Hearn is the one stuffing up these fights. Slyk does have a point that out of the big 3, Fury and Wilder seemed to have no issues arranging fights. The common denominator for these big fights not being made appears to be Hearn.

I don't think Fury is particularly scared of AJ and vice-verse. Hearn, however, is likely aware this is AJs last chance at a good cashout because his recent opponents have been absolutely appalling (bar Dubios, who prompty KO'd him).

 

I really don’t understand this point at all. Because Fury and Wilder fought each other that means Joshua ducked them?

Before ‘99 would it have made sense to say ‘Lennox Lewis never fought Bowe or Holyfield, and yet they fought each other three times. Which means Lewis must’ve ducked both’? Because that’s basically the same logic.

 

Yawn.

 

Did you read my post at all? My point is that it's Hearn's ego getting in the way of making these fights.

 

You and the other guy are both saying you know this because Fury/Wilder fought each other and AJ didn’t.

 

I actually agree with hearn and I think most UK fans do, it should take place in UK, it's the two biggest British names in UK boxing for last 10 years fighting each other, needs to be at wembley or Tottenham

Brits have kept the heavyweight division alive we should have this fight on our soil Americans don't do a atmosphere like the Brits everyone knows that

 

Then I think you need to re-read my post.

 

I'd prefer the fight take place in the UK too. However, let's not pretend that Hearn hasn't sold out before by having a lot of major fights in Saudi either.

They should just fight already and get it done with. I think we can all agree we're sick of the circus at this point.

 

I don't have to believe in fairy tales, I just have to stick to the facts. Wilder himself admitted that he chose a worse, less expensive fight with Fury when he had two fights with AJ to choose from. Did you miss this information, or is it an inconvenient fact you're deliberately omitting? If the fighter himself admitted it, then everything is clear. Fury had numerous offers and rejected them all. He preferred Wilder and Chisora.

The facts are also ruthless when it comes to choosing opponents to defend their titles. Joshua has never avoided mandatory title defenses, and every fan who follows him clearly remembers the situation with those two. Wilder avoided Povetkin for almost two years with the WBC's permission. He avoided Dillian Whyte for almost three years. Fury also wasn't eager to defend his title. You're mentioning names like Klitschko and Zhang... Joshua fought Wladimir and, unlike Tyson, was willing to give him a rematch immediately if he wanted it. You probably remember what Tyson did too... And Zhang? Do we really consider it a great feat that a guy on the brink of defeats finally started accepting tougher fights, and on top of that, he lost? xD

So it's not delusions, but facts. If someone was avoiding someone, these two were the leaders... What their reasons were is irrelevant.

Besides, who am I talking to? I think most people are already well aware that Joshua has an army of haters on this forum who will omit any inconvenient facts just to create another pointless thread like this to spark a pointless discussion.

 

I hope most people are smart enough to know Wilder fighting Fury was a cherry-pick. After the Wlad win, Fury was out of the ring for two and a half years due to drug issues and came back with two underwhelming performances against Seferi, who quit in the 4th, and Pianeta, who went the full 10 round distance. AJ was seen as the #1 heavyweight before the fight, with Wilder #2. Fury wasn't even in the top-five conversation.

Wilder only took the two most risky fights of his career, Zhang and Parker, after losing the comfort of his belt. If he still had his belt, I doubt he would have fought Zhang and Parker in the first place. The one win you listed for Wilder that I'll give you credit for is the first fight with Luis Ortiz, though Ortiz rejected a career-high payday to face AJ. The second fight was just him stalling.

Fury fighting Chisora three times isn't the flex you think it is. It shows Fury's tendency to take easy fights. He absolutely kicked Chisora's ass in their second fight, and Chisora wasn't a top-ranked contender that Fury needed to face a third time. Whyte was shot to bits, but I'll give him credit for that win. And don't forget Fury's fight with Ngannou when he was champion, which clearly shows his ducking capabilities. He only fought Usyk when the Saudis gave him an offer he couldn't refuse, and even the fanboys were sick of his ducking.

 

Id take saudi over America at least wouldn't have to stay up till 6am

 

Saudi also drags out big fights with stupid intermissions. The difference between UK and US is whether or not I'm watching the fight at breakfast or dinner time. Saudi is always bang in the middle of the day