"Joshua is running from Wilder, he's hiding behind his promoter and he should be" --- Luis Ortiz

To be fair to AJ, I think he wanted the fight once upon a time.

But I think where Mckracken, Eddie and Barry Hearn have been telling him he's not ready, he's now convinced himself of that. Which is why when he's interviewed he's telling journalists to ask Eddie Hearn.

The decision isn't really in his hands, he's a slave after all.

 

You tell me what Amir Wilder is worth in an AJ fight then?

Wilder can't sell out small arenas in his own country.
Wilder isn't a PPV fighter in his own country.
Wilder hasn't had one unification fight.
Wilder hold just 1 of the 4 major belts.
Wilder gets at most err let's say 2 million a defence (that's being generous)

Now compare those things with AJ and you tell me Wilder is worth more than the 15 million flat fee he was offered. That was an amazing offer for Wilder, too much in my opinion.

So just explain how Big Amir is worth more than that 15 million?

Tell me how much is the fight worth?

Tell me who generates that worth and how?

Tell me where the fight is, how big the arena is and who is selling it?

 

I answered all your questions and you couldn't answer any of mine, not one. So how can I take you seriously if you don't address any of my points and expect me to give you another answer because you didn't like the first?

I'm not even going to bother reading all of that irrelevant garbage because I already know what it's going to say and quite frankly you now have zero credibility. You're actually going on my ignore list because I don't appreciate posters who waste my time and write long messages that don't even address the former post. You don't have the decency to engage in an honest debate and answer my questions, so you continue believing in your own fairytale deluded bs.

I've tried being objective with you, sadly you are unwilling to deal in the reality

Everyone knows Joshua has ducked Wilder, He's told you this himself.

And that's why the press are hounding him everywhere he goes asking about Wilder, who's meant to be irrelevant according to you AJ fangirls.

I hope you enjoy being Hearn's little *****.

 

Oh right so Mayweather is BFF with AJ but the other are completely neutral without any agenda whatsoever?


FFS Lewis is regarded as Britains best ever Heavyweight and Joshua is slowly catching him in terms of achievements already, so they are British rivals so he has an agenda.

And isn't Lewis "Friends" with Amir Wilder? I can post the video of them in th street and Lewis giving his boxing tips (That's as good as Mayweather is friends with AJ)

Fury is a British rival, Fury had his thunder stolen and his belts stolen by Joshua and they have been talking for years now about a Fury Vs AJ fight, so he has an agenda

Fury slags everybody off, want to talk about what he has said about Wilder before, it's not been very complimentary?

Froch is just bitter and sour these days and anybody who listens to him and takes him seriously, well if they do that's their problem.

Evander is American and is backing his fellow countryman.

There you go, reasons they would say what they've said, as good as "Mayweather is friends with AJ".

 

Did Eddie f##k your mum? Where's the hate come from child?

 

You registered just to come in here and defend Eddie?



Eddie's little wiener could only satisfy his cultish little fangirls.

I'd have to write a dissertation if I gave all the reasons why Hearn is hated, not just by me but many others within and outside of boxing.

He's more or less the white Don King and his disgusting wrinkly old man is just an upgraded Jimmy Saville

 

The split should be 35-65 in favor of AJ. Please tell me why Parker deserves a percent and not Wilder?!?

 

This guy, if he is a guy, is a fool. Judging by his response here im guessing somebody has asked him for some solid facts. He usually responds to demands for facts in this way. Like a child. His credibility in regards to his thoughts on Eddie Hearn or any Matchroom fighter (he called every single one a coward) is out of the window, this fools credibility has gone.

 

Why the **** is this dude spouting off? He's never been in the ring with joshua so he's in no position to make a call, seems to me like he's trying to **** AJ off to get one last payday.

 

I see you created an alt just to respond to me after I put you on ignore.

Absolutely pathetic

 

Maybe, or maybe that is somebody else who disagrees and thinks you are a fool. And you are a fool. I dont know who runs faster, Deontay from threats or you from facts. You should report me for creating that ALT.

 

Don't mistake me for Anthony Jenner, I don't need to snitch like he did on Ortiz.

You can create all the alts you like until your hearts content.

It doesn't change the fact that your boy is a fraud who's on record saying he doesn't want to sell his soul or belts for 50 million.

These are facts which you and the other moronic dogs will never be able to escape from no matter how much irrelevant bs you wish to bring to the table

- Wilder never said he wasn't ready. Jenner did.

- Wilder never asked for 50 million saying he would accept it the very next day and then once offered the deal, turn around and say he would only fight in the uk even if it meant less money. Jenner

- Wilder never said he can't fight outside his backyard because he wouldn't feel secure. Jenner did.

- Wilder never asked his fans to fight and train for him. Jenner did

- Wilder never said he will listen to his trainer as to when he is allowed to accept the fight. Jenner did.

- Wilder never said he will only fight when he feels he is in the best possible position to win. Jenner did.

- Wilder never asked the WBA to remove Ortiz as mandatory so he could fight Pulev. Jenner did that.

 

For argument's sake, let's say AJ is ducking, but when will Wilder's team offer AJ a contract? I mean an actual real-life contract with a proposed date venue etc, not a text message from Deontay saying "here's $50M agree now no questions asked"

 

This has been done so many times. Contracts only get sent after the offer is accepted, not before.

None of eddies offers have included contracts before the other party has agreed.

Hearn isn't even sure he if he sent over the 15 million contract to Wilder. He said he may or may not have done.

They outright turned the 50 million down. Joshua said it wasn't feasible for him to fight outside of the uk.

Wake up and realise they are purposely sabotaging the fight. Barry Hearn begged Joshua to duck Wilder.


‘The Deontay Wilder fight, if I was Anthony Joshua, I’d be leaving that for a little while,’ Hearn said.

Not because I’m worried about Deontay Wilder, but at this moment in time, maybe I’m looking at 500,000 to 600,000 pay-per-view buyers. ‘I said to Anthony, “If you had six months to live I would say go and fight Deontay Wilder, take the most money, but if you’re saying to me that you’ve got a legacy plan then I’m saying let’s capitalise on it properly.”

In other words, lets milk the dumb fanboys a bit longer, let us feed them ppv fights with Miller, Dillian Whyte and 40 year old past it challengers until we're left with no choice but to cash out against Wilder.

How anyone can blame Wilder for the fight not happening, when it's there in pain black and white from Joshua's own handlers that they want him to duck Wilder for as long as possible.

 

How can they accept the offer when they dont know the offer. How small do you think these contracts are? Just 2 lines, 1 with money on it and 1 for signitures?. Hearn and Joshua would really need to know some more detail than that Joshua is getting paid but thats all Wilder and Finkel was willing to disclose. Then gave them 24 hours and then shut the door to any further talk about that offer.

That is not how you do Boxing business. Anyway, Hearn and Joshua didnt like the way Haymon was going to pay Joshua his 50 Million is small yearly installments.

Not that it matters, Joshua wants home turf and as he is by a massive distance the A side it is his right to demand it.