"Joshua is running from Wilder, he's hiding behind his promoter and he should be" --- Luis Ortiz

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  1. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    They offered 50 million gaureteed win or lose for Joshua.

    The intricate details would be revealed once they accept. Not before.

    Hearn himself never sent a contract over to Wilder when he was offering him to fight Whyte for 5 million.

    A contract wasn't sent over when they were offering 50/50 purse splits for the Klitschko fight.

    It's not how things are done in boxing. Hearn lied to you and you fell for it.

    So why then is he demanding contracts before anything has been agreed and demanding proof of funds from Al Haymon?

    Eddie should have been clipped for that request alone.. The sheer disrespect and arrogance was unprecedented. And one of many reasons, why he now has enemies in America

    He tricked and got gullible brainwashed idiots like you into believing Al Haymon and Shelly Finkel of all people wouldn't be able to cough up the funds to pay his slave boy the 50 million he ****ing asked for.
     
  2. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Not just intricate, all details would be revealed once they accepted. Not normal. And they did accept the money, Joshua said LETS ROLL, Hearn said we are interested and then Finkel did not want to proceed. What did you want Hearn and Joshua to say. We accept this fight with no details what so ever???? Get real.

    Not that this matters, A side Joshua wants to fight in the UK. End of story.
     
  3. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    ''Let's roll''...what? Some hay off a field? Roll a joint? Roll a cake?

    It means nothing. All they had to do was respond in writing that they will accept the offer in principle which isn't legally binding.

    They didn't need to play the spin game and pretend that they were working with a bunch of people living out of the projects.

    If Hearn had showed more respect the meeting would most likely have taken place

    He was sent an email to remind him that all he had to do was accept the offer before they would send over the contract details and such.

    Saying you're interested after disrespecting a man who helped secured his boy with a 50/50 split with Klitschko, calling the man Shirly and questioning him and his fighter's credibility is no way of doing business in any world.
     
  4. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Make your mind up. So a verbal offer is ok but a response has to be in writing before any talks are to be held? And now your saying further negotiations would of happened if Hearn didnt call Finkel silly names? So now your saying further negotiations were needed but Finkel shut the door on Hearn and further negotiations because Hearn called him Shirley.

    But like i said, it doesnt matter, nothing ever ever came to Eddie Hearn or Anthony Joshua on paper, that offer from Wilder may aswell just not of ever existed cuz nobody anywhere in the world saw anything written down on paper, not like the contract Wilder has right now, or the one coming to him with Joshuas signiture on it

    And Joshua, Anthony A side Joshua, wants the fight in the UK. So it makes no difference anyway.
     
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  5. sniffmybadger

    sniffmybadger Boxing Junkie

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    Exactly. "$50M guaranteed is all you need to know" Really? I mean what other possible information would you need than that? like is it in instalments over 50 years? What network will be showing the fight?

    No meetings allowed to discuss the offer, no actual contract to read, it's quite amazing people actually think this is a genuine offer.

    So when is Wilder's team going to get an actual legitimate proposed contract offer together, not just a PR stunt tweeted, I mean he really wants the fight.
     
  6. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    It wasn't a verbal offer. They sent an email, just like Eddie Hearn sends his offers through emails.

    Joshua saying ''let's roll'' on twitter isn't clear response to anything. And he confirmed he would reject it later citing that he was prepared to fight for less money so long as he gets to fight in the uk.

    If they had said they accepted the offer, further negotiations and meetings would have taken place. They wanted the carte before the horse and that's not how things work, contrary to the lies Hearn peddled.

    As for the 15 mil, The contract has been sent to Wilder ''AFTER'' he accepted the unreasonable trash that no fighter should accept for a unification.

    You don't offer a contract with a no rematch clause for the other champion but a rematch clause for Jenner. And then flat fee the deal.

    What other champions can you show me that accepted flat fee contracts if you believe it is reasonable?
     
  7. Stnucerasacirema

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    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    You're an alt who just told on himself. You know my posts because I ripped you to shreds on another account.

    If Joshua fought Ortiz he'd have been given credit for fighting an undefeated awkward southpaw with power.

    Wilder already accepted the scam contract before Hearn changed the terms of the contract so he would naturally reject it you stupid little donkey.

    You have be a braindead autistic vagrant on meth to think for one second that any reigning Champion is going to accept an offer whereby he is not given the option of a rematch but the other fighter and if a second fight was to go ahead any time in the future (even when Wilder wins) it would only be on Hearn's terms.

    Let's not forget the con artist Hearn told Wilder he would have to fight Whyte before he could be allowed to fight his slave and Wider agreed providing there was a clause included in the contract guaranteeing that Jenner would be next and Hearn said he couldn't do it.

    That's the reality. Wilder has accepted their stupid low ball offers and then Hearn has moved the goalposts are added in clauses which he knows will sabotage the deal from being agreed.
     
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  10. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    No but he clearly peed all over yours whilst selling you the lie that he does it to everyone elses, leading you to believe you were getting a good deal from exchanging your mother for his autograph.
     
  11. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    I think he thinks you and I are the same person.
     
  12. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Why hasnt Wilder gone after the other World titles?


    All these 'greats' like Tyson who he claims he's better than went after other belts.


    Klitschko, Martin, Parker have all held belts and been active whilst Wilder has been WBC champ....
    Why 0 unifications?



    Wilder has fought 1 World champions in his career - Stiverne
    Joshua has fought 4 - Martin, Parker, Povetkin, Klitschko

    Before anyone claims 'Martin isn't a HW champ', he's as much or as little a champ as Stiverne.....Both won vacant titles and had 0 defences.
    Enough said.

    Deontay '0 risks, 0 recognised opponents' Wilder.
     
  13. Stnucerasacirema

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    Nah he defo ruined your mum no way you would be so bitter if he didn't, you should get her to go to the police! By the way love the cartoon character in your profile young man
     
  14. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Oh I know how you are now :lol:

    You're that little piece of chicken Bensub who couldn't find the balls to come to my street to find out if I had ''laced a pair of gloves before'' after I gave you my address. You mistook me for AJ and thought I'd back down and find a way out of fighting. Then you threatened to bring your friends with you to jump me like a coward.

    You are pathetic, predicatble paper thin see fraud like your boy Anthony Jenner. The offer is still on the table, time and date, whenever you want to find out if I ''laced a pair of gloves'' before.


    Boy oh boy, the lengths some of you go to! I knew you were someone who I tore to shreds previously
     
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  15. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    If Joshua's running from Wilder, then Wilder isn't make a very good effort to chase him down.