Joshua: " Klitschko hit me the hardest"

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  1. TMLT87

    TMLT87 Member Full Member

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    Clearly Wlad is the biggest puncher hes faced by some distance. If Wlad was able to land on him like Usyk and Ruiz (in the first fight) did he would have been knocked clean out.
     
  2. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The left hook that VK demolished Pulev with is probably the best shot I've seen VK land. That's why VK was so dangerous in his day, left or right hand landing flush and you were pretty much effed.
     
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  3. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wladimir knew he dun goofed retiring after the joshua vs takam fight, wladimirs timing was off in the joshua fight and just needed some more intense sparring and would have beaten joshua in a rematch.
     
  4. ertwin

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    Cause he took the fury fight 3 times.
     
  5. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's still one opponent.....also after the first fight Wilder would have felt he could get Fury out considering he nearly did at the end of the first fight.

    The fact is Wilder turned down Joshua. wanted no piece of Vlad and avoided everyone else near or at the top.

    Let me reiterate again. back then Fury was damaged goods who had claim to the lineal and that was it he wasn't considered heavy handed or having a great chin.

    Wilder was/is deluded surrounded by yes men and believed his power would get him out of trouble as it had with everybody beforehand.

    As I mention above knocking out bums is different to knocking out the top guys who are generally more durable.

    Think of someone like Iron Mike or Lennox. both very heavy handed but as they moved up in competition they started to go the distance a few times. That's the norm when you progress from building experience to challenging contenders and former champs./ champs.

    Wilder simple doesn't have that progression before fighting a physically compromised Fury.

    The issue here is the assumption that Wilder sparks everyone when the only top guy he fought who wasn't classed as iron chinned beforehand he failed to get out of there on three attempts.

    The fact is we will never know because he was kept away from anyone with a pulse.

    I'm not putting it all on Wilder either I blame the people who managed his career and wanted to milk a limited cash cow keeping him away from the bigger challenges thus stunting his development as a boxer.
     
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  6. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Wlad punched harder than Ruiz I guess Ruiz must've had more speed and skill than Wlad cause he did what Wlad couldn't.
     
  7. PlechkoisTyson

    PlechkoisTyson Member Full Member

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    more hunger and toughness.
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Povetkin was teak-tough and had an excellent beard in his prime




    Now look what it took for AJ who is obviously a huge hitter himself to put Povetkin over and the later was badly hurt from the first big right and it was a silly shot he really shouldn't have got caught with to be honest

     
  9. box33

    box33 Active Member Full Member

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    Not only in the rematch but if he just went at AJ instead of boxing,

    I'm sure there's some regret in himself for that, it was that allowed time that helped AJ recovered & finish the job by stopping him,

    I remember reading Vitali saying something similar.
     
  10. box33

    box33 Active Member Full Member

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    Of course,

    it's why Team Wilder steered clear from Wlad for all those years, i remember Finkle saying Wilder is a baby lamb of some sort.
     
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  11. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And He was 41 Lucky he was not Prime.!!!
     
  12. 15 rounds

    15 rounds Member banned Full Member

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    No he won't 1) He is like better. 2 ) Wilder will be old.
     
  13. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Active Member Full Member

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    Ruiz hit AJ much harder than Wlad did.
     
  14. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Boards don’t hit back Full Member

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    Likely but hindsight is 20/20. AJ at that point seemed like a near world beater and people probably thought he'd only get better in those pre-Ruiz 1 days.
     
  15. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY I've had so much sex during lockdown Full Member

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    The only thing he'll be coming back to is the canvas.