Joshua Put on a CLINIC Yesterday

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  1. Dirsspaardis

    Dirsspaardis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not to take anything away from Ruiz but AJ ****ed up in the first fight and paid for it dearly.
    UD does not make up for getting ragged like he did but the whole situation has actually helped him more than it has done harm.

    Doesn’t help us though, I suspect we’ll see more performances like this from him.
     
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  2. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    No, he didn't **** up, he fought him like he fought everybody else, it just didn't work with him, because Andy had an answer for that style, he didn't have one for yesterday's style.

    You're right about the rest of it though.

    The Wladimir Klitschko match scared him enough to make him fight safe and boring, the Ruiz match reached into his chest and tore his heart out and forced him to turn into another fighter all together, he'll never be the same. Sadly to the detriment of all of us.
     
  3. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All the putting AJ down on fighting Ruiz,I'd love to see how Wilder does v Ruiz & after Fury fight we might get that.
     
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  4. Dubblechin

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    I'm happy Anthony Joshua won. I was never a fan of Ruiz. I think most everyone knew what Ruiz was before the first fight with Joshua, and I think everyone was right. I thought Sergei Liakhovich outpointed Ruiz a while back. He just reminded me of many of those 80s heavyweights who didn't care enough.

    But these last two performances by Joshua are kind of shocking, to me.

    I always viewed Joshua as a monster puncher first and foremost. He's a decent boxer. But he's always been a banger first and foremost. And many of the big punchers in boxing history have had bad chins, for some reason. I just figured Joshua got cocky the first time around, got caught and panicked and in the rematch he'd come in with his head on straight (like Lennox Lewis against Rahman) and just knock Ruiz out. Short and sweet.

    And when he landed that right hand against Ruiz in the first and cut him, I thought, here we go.

    But it didn't happen.

    Honestly, while I enjoy debating people about heavyweights, all the nonsense and favoritism aside, Joshua looked really vulnerable yesterday. In some ways, more vulnerable than he did in their first fight.

    The vibe I got was kind of the same toward the end of Bruno-McCall, when everyone (myself included) was just wishing Bruno could get to the final bell so he could get a decision. The DAZN announcers even commented on how members of the Sky team were all shouting instructions to Joshua when Ruiz started coming on in a couple rounds.

    I'm glad he won. It certainly makes the division more interesting.

    But whatever Joshua used to have, he doesn't seem to have it any more. He was terrified of getting hit with anything yesterday, and his fans seemed to be terrified of him getting hit with anything, too. And Ruiz has never been a puncher of note. Which made the way Joshua reacted in these last two fights so weird.

    I hope we still get a series with Wilder-Fury and Wilder-Joshua and Joshua-Fury, etc.

    But I wouldn't be surprised if Hearn matched Joshua with the lightest punchers he can find for the foreseeable future. Hell, by the way Joshua is so afraid of left hands, I wouldn't be surprised if Usyk stopped him.

    Joshua wasn't a guy whistling past the cemetery on Saturday. He was a guy flat out sprinting past the cemetery.

    The aura is gone.
     
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  5. Dubblechin

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    Why on earth would anyone want to watch Wilder-Ruiz before Wilder-Joshua?

    C'mon.

    I didn't really care to watch Andy Ruiz fights before the first Joshua fight, and I don't really want to watch Andy Ruiz ever again.
     
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  6. Dirsspaardis

    Dirsspaardis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That’s what I meant by ****ed up.
    He tried to do his usual routine which was a mistake and that kind of arrogance got him shitmixed pretty hard.
    He should’ve fought in a similar way first time around yet was too dumb or cocky so thought he’ll KO some fat clown without breaking a sweat.
    By the looks of it, he has learned the importance of a proper game plan that’s based on opponents weaknesses.
    Which is cool for him, belts are back, he got 85mil allegedly and will get much more, this kind of thinking will get him a few more important wins but we’ll be like meh observing all that.
     
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  7. sauhund II

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    I said it countless times, this rematch was for Ruiz to loose not AJ to win if he comes in the same shape of mind and body........clinic my azz....Ruiz showed up totally out of shape, fat as whale , "trained" at a taco stand and had his feet stuck in cement due to the above.....shots he ducked in the first he took flush this time because he was simply not in fighting shape...........the difference in agility and snap is night and day between the current version and the one who steamrolled AJ........he literally had wobbling bacon on his back this time...utter disgrace...he simply mailed it in.

    AJ fought plenty on the backfoot in the first and jabbed except Ruiz was able to take it away and bring the heat because he came to win...not this time ,he came to loose.

    There were plenty of openings and the few times Ruiz got close he could not capitalize , again due to the above and AJ had utter panic on his face.......the Bodybuilder is still packing glass, no doubt.

    Credit were credit is due, AJ approached the fight professionally vs Ruiz, like many fighters before him just did not give a shid and took it for granted.

    But the WK blueprint is there.......fighting Stiffs and Bums on Home soil exclusively , naturally they get major build up on here from the fan girls as "great" fighters..................jab and grab VS2 is coming to your theater.........its going to be the cream puff Pulev, then fatsack Whyte is getting a mercy payday.....and then a replay of the WK/Haye fight.....a track meet between featherfist Usyk and Aj......afterwards it will be...thank you Mr Hearns and Mr AJ for the paycheck, maybe I fight some more Witherspoons in between so I can get better for another pay check, thank you Mr hearns......

    The jab and grab aint working against Fury and Wilder, anybody with a brain knows that and that is the reason those fights are not gpoing to be ,made anytime soon, Hearns is gonna milk that cow dry with non threats.

    BTW, it is as clear as day that AJ is wide open for the straight right, he was open all night yesterday.......since WK put him down with a right he has fought only Hookers not straight punchers and Parker aint no straight puncher either......Fury and Wilder are and that is the reason Hearns will stay clear as long as he can.
     
  8. The Professor

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    Thing is, it was painfully obvious after the first fight that the ONLY reason Joshua lost is that he rushed in after he had Ruiz hurt to finish matters and got caught.

    Yet, there was ABSURD and UNJUSTIFIED overeating of Ruiz from many quarters on this site, and some of those who did this are still trying to justify this.

    Ruiz won the first fight because he got lucky that an overconfident Joshua rushed in to end matters, no more no less. Last night showed this clearly. Time to accept reality.
     
  9. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    You're right he did, he took all our asses to the Sleep Study Clinic.
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    Yeah I know that was a bad joke, but I couldn't resist.:sisi1
     
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  10. ElCyclon

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    This was a clinic on how to successfully not lose a fight using a safety first style. Not blaming Joshua though, the goal was to win the belts back without getting caught. Mission accomplished.
     
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  11. Manfred

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    The first fight was no fluke gents and AJ knows it. If that's the case then he would have no problem with the rubber match. Any heavyweight worth his salt would demand a third fight to erase all doubt.
     
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  12. sid

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    Easy can not see Wilder fighting AJ thay won't come to agree on where the fight should be.
    Or how much money each other should get for this fight.
     
  13. Dubblechin

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    Wilder is fighting Tyson Fury next.
     
  14. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    After that.
     
  15. Dubblechin

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    Ruiz's days as a factor at the top of the division lasted six months and are completely over with now.

    The next time you see Andy Ruiz will be next summer sometime on FS1 against Chris Arreola in the Battle for California. And he may not win that.

    Or they'll feed him to Kownacki, and Adam will bash him to pieces over 10.