Joshua Put on a CLINIC Yesterday

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  1. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's not a fluke, that's called being stupid on AJ's part. Ruiz took advantage, a fluke would be a random injury, not eating a massive left hook and going jelly legs. Something I'm not surprised he's done as he's hardly the most tactical fighter.
     
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  2. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Both fighters where dropped in the 3rd round, AJ was stopped in the 7th, AJ had another 4 rounds of action to adapt, he didn’t he lost.

    Stop making excuses.
     
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  3. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    Seldom do the outcomes of fights boil down to luck, and Ruiz-Joshua I was no exception. Joshua went on the offensive, Ruiz kept his nerve, punched with him and timed the more hurtful shot(s). Joshua did what he had to do for the return bout, reinvented himself well enough to navigate a path around the guy who knocked him out, but that doesn't in any way illegitimize Ruiz' win. He was clearly better in their first meeting.

    Even long range, Joshua wasn't truly winning in NYC. Ruiz was giving a class in outjabbing the rangier man in rounds 1 and 2 before the fight even broke out (not that the official scorecards ever would have reflected it). Joshua had to really work on constant movement, minimizing commitment, darting in and out and just pecking for points in order to get that win.
     
  4. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ruiz lost the rematch because he lacked heart, plain and simple! If he had the heart of someone like Joe Frazier, or a Shawn Porter, he would've gotten another stoppage victory, but would've probably taken slightly longer than he took in the first bout.

    I mean, it was clear from the 2nd round of their first bout, that Joshua simply didn't have the power in his artillery to KO Andy Ruiz Jr with a single-shot. Ruiz ate Joshua's best shots flush, but still proceeded to walking-down and walking-through Joshua whilst landing his own power-punches.

    In the rematch, Joshua put less power on his punches and was less-committed, leaving less-openings. Whereas in the first bout, Joshua committed more and left more openings.

    So Ruiz didn't have to take as many punches to get into range and to exploit an opening in the first bout. Whilst Ruiz Jr had no choice but to take more risks and take more punches in the rematch to be able to get into range and exploit an opening.

    Ruiz's heart wasn't tested by Joshua in the first bout, because again, he left more openings and subsequently allowed Ruiz Jr an easier time to launch his attacks. However, Joshua definitely tested Ruiz's heart in the second bout, by forcing him to take more risks by not giving him as many openings by not committing as much.

    Unfortunately for Ruiz Jr, although he proved to have the physical durability to take Joshua's best shots without getting KO'ed or even getting badly hurt, he failed to show the required mental courage and heart in the rematch, to take extra-risks so that he could launch his attacks.

    The fight was literally in Ruiz's hands, more so than Joshua's. If Ruiz Jr had the heart of a true champion, Joshua would be history by now and there's nothing Joshua could've done to change that. But despite Ruiz Jr showing he's got the physical durability to withstand whatever Joshua could dish-out, he wasn't mentally willing to do so in the rematch when he was forced to do so even though he physically could.

    When Ruiz had to take fewer risks and therefore, needed less heart and courage, such as in their first bout, it was only then he could beat Joshua.
     
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  5. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    Good memories last year in June when the bodybuilder was beaten down for stealing Andy's donuts and the pandemic wasn't taking place. I think Joshua's optimum weight is around 17 stone, he's much faster and fluid before he started bulking up to Ronnie Coleman levels. I remember seeing him blast through Sprott and Skelton and felt he would be too quick for Ruiz. It's quite a achievement for Joshua to get through Wlad, Povetkin, and Whyte with that kind of conditioning. Deontay suffered from bulking up to 230, and hopefully it's back to basics, for him when he retains those shiny belts from the coronavirus gypsy king Fury.
     
  6. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    It was not a fluke. They went at it in the ring and Ruiz had more precision and skill with his punches. And then Joshua spit out his mouthpiece and quit.

    Joshua is not a top level prizefighter. His record is smoke and mirrors and Ruiz shattered that glass. No heavyweight can call himself a top fighter if he gets beaten down by an obese man. And then has to run away from a man who has upgraded from obese to morbidly obese in the rematch.

    That's your HW champion? The guy getting put on his ass by on obese man?
     
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  7. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    AJ has proved again and again he is a true champ.

    I am a Parker fan from NZ - and thus have no reason to like AJ.

    But he has proved it to me - and I have to be honest.
     
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  8. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Are you trolling? You said the exact same thing in every paragraph.
     
  9. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Corrales spit out his mouthpiece as well, just before he knocked out Castillo.

    You do understand that's a tactic to buy more time, don't you?
     
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  10. FuryFTW

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    Joshua wanted out, you could see the fear in his eyes, he peeled himself of the canvas wearily, saw Ruiz looking strong, pacing like a pregnant jellyfish, and decided "no mas"
     
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  11. macademics

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    It was the necessary performance needed to guarantee the win. Not a technical masterpiece perfomrance, with his natural advantages he just used the correct technical strategy to beat the shorter faster man.

    If Joshua stood at the mid range and chose to potshot and counter instead then it would be a masterclass. Joshua didn't beat Ruiz at his own game - he made him fight Joshua's fight.
     
  12. Neon Maniac

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    AJ cut open Ruiz with the first punch ,Ruiz stayed on his feet this time but if AJ combines elements in the first fight to the security one ,Ruiz won’t last a full 12 round fight. People are really ignoring the shots he ate as if AJ ran ,did you see Ruiz face in slow motion when AJ tagged him in some of those rounds ?
     
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  13. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Take the risk or lose the chance Full Member

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    Aj not that good a boxer Ruiz is way better the only shot aj has is what he did run and pot shot
     
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  14. Neon Maniac

    Neon Maniac Member Full Member

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    Those pot shots would take anyone’s head off.The first big shot and the last one AJ landed had he put them together it’s all over ,you’ll see in a third fight . AJ can’t box when he boxes ,he can’t fight when he fights,either way you’ll never be satisfied it’ll be either one or the under ,he’s a stiff robot or he’s a runner .
     
  15. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Take the risk or lose the chance Full Member

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    He can't fight Wilder or Fury that way before the Fury came back I had him as best Hw over Wilder after Ruiz I favor Wilder