Joshua sould of been better than he was..

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  1. Mister Pugilist

    Mister Pugilist Active Member Full Member

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    i think when we look back at AJ's career were going to say he could and should of been better then he turned out to be, legacy wise

    he is obviously talented being an olympic champion. and his size and strength is up their, but idk was it a lack of confidence in his resistance? the Ruiz fight really ruined him in a way
     
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  2. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jack of all trades master of none with 0 mental fortitude. Joshua had a dozen different trainers and none of them could make him better.
     
  3. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    He was a boxer - puncher, with all the required physical tools for greatness. His ring smarts, maturity, and emotions did not keep up with the rest of him.
     
  4. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mother Nature rarely gives it all to one man. Just how it goes. A man with it all 100% physically is very unlikely to get 100% of the intangibles. It wouldn’t be fair. Imagine Wlad with his brother’s chin and heart? Imagine Usyk with Wilder’s power? Imagine Tyson with Holyfield’s discipline (that’s a wild thought; might have been the GOAT)?
     
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  5. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Ruiz fight changed the trajectory. But Uysk completely derailed him. Had there never been an Oleksandr Usyk, he would have rebounded and fulfilled his potential.
     
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  6. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    The main thing I have noticed about AJ is that he usually gets his clock cleaned when he gets reckless.
    The first time he was stunned as a pro was against Whyte when he was easily beating the crap out of him. He got badly rocked and almost stopped by Wlad after having him down. He was actually giving Ruiz a hiding before Ruiz caught him with that left hook on the temple. Dubois hurt him early but he only got finished off once he had hurt Dubois and went for the kill. Usyk was just all around too good for him no shame in that. He stayed calm against Povetkin despite getting caught a few times also stayed calm against Ngannou and those were two of his best performances.
     
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  7. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't agree he did very well he won 9 world title fights which is more than the likes of Marciano, Foreman.

    The Ruiz loss was a shocker but atleast he revenged it.

    He was never going to beat Usyk who is simply on another level.

    It's a shame he never got the big fights vs Fury, Wilder, but all in all I think he got the most of his career 9 world title wins is very good.
     
  8. TipNom

    TipNom Active Member Full Member

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    Couldn't have done much better to be honest. He could've beaten Ruiz the first time but that's about it. Might've beaten Dubois had he fought smart. Would've always fought Usyk and lost. Isn't really his fault that the big legacy defining fights against Fury and Wilder didn't happen either.
     
  9. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Many fighters are never the same after their first loss and Joshua is a prime example.

    At 22-0 and matched against someone chosen to help showcase him to the potentially huge US market, Joshua got complacent.

    Ruiz, way better than Hearn and Joshua gave him credit for - that's why he was chosen - was good enough to capitalize and the US dream and Joshua's self confidence were crushed on the same night.

    Yes, Joshua won by running like a rabbit against the overweight and unmotivated Ruiz in the rematch but the damage was done. He was never the same and no amount of trainer swapping was able to repair the damaged goods.
     
  10. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He overachieved if you look at him objectively.

    Gifted gold, massive promotion behind him in the pros. Never had the skill, heart or chin to be a long term top 5 guy. Did extremely well considering how limited he is, to be fair.
     
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  11. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think anyone can question his genetics, amazing genetics. Eddie Chambers wasn't a believer but got told about dem genes yo.
    Somehow an obese midget HW beat him up though, which was a shocking curiosity of the world.
    I guess there's a psychological component to all this fighting stuff.
     
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  12. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    I agree.
    AJ promised a lot after defeating Parker and knocking out Wlad and Povetkin, but the underestimation of Andy Ruiz changed him forever; irreversible.
     
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