Joshua v Ruiz Press conference

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Degale, Sep 3, 2019.


  1. BXNG101

    BXNG101 Member Full Member

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    Yep. Agreed. I've said this before when the AJ fight was first announced. If human life is that sacred to everyone on here then we should all be disassociating ourselves with boxing events held in the US and the UK right? Seeing as they both have combined and caused a lot of bloodshed around the world.

    I get it though. It's far easier to label Saudi as as backwards regime than label ourselves as one, as we have a more liberal regime in control of us over here whereas Saudi is kind of the opposite but don't let that cloud your head about the killers that come from our shores. They're just as bad but no one seems to be boycotting any of the events held in the UK..

    If we want to get political about Saudi in regards to them holding a boxing event then we should be consistent about the UK too.
     
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  2. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Active Member Full Member

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    You are one of the rare ones Twentyman because the vast majority I see are CLEARLY not coming at it from an honourable position.
     
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  3. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Active Member Full Member

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    The vast majority of citizens of Nazi Germany thought they were on the "good" side

    It's how it is, propaganda, state controlled media, patriotism, bred in xenophobia.

    It's not easy to see what is actually going on, and even if you do it's not easy to speak out on it as the brainwashed masses don't like hearing the truth

    I'm against ****ty treatment of anyone, and there is a lot of that happening in Saudi, but the educated, free thinkers amongst us know we are no better.

    I've said it before the only difference is our leaders smile to your face and stab you in the back, while in places like saudi they just dispense with the pleasantries.
     
  4. Gymbot

    Gymbot Active Member Full Member

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    And there are still people who think this isn't just about money :D

    Hearn and AJ's desperate attempts to bull**** their way around this total money-grabbing farce is hilarious.
     
  5. Unforgiven

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    If Joshua's purses for his UK fights were been boosted by direct payment from the warmongering UK government's coffers to whitewash their image vis-a-vis foreign policy, then you'd have a point.
     
  6. Unforgiven

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    I think the difference is that Saudi Arabia's regime is behind the event. They are guaranteeing the financing of this event and own the company that is partnering with Matchroom to promote it.
     
  7. Unforgiven

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    Personally, I don't have a problem with the fight being in Saudi Arabia.
    But I feel Hearn should shut up and stop trying to 'justify' it to the critics.
     
  8. Scissors

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    Joshua having a random blood test this morning.
     
  9. ryanm8655

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    He’s professional, his cycle will be optimised to pass the test.
     
  10. channy

    channy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Some good points, but i cant see him blowing it.

    When Douglas beat Tyson it was a shock, but i truly believe both would have been defeated by Holyfield anyway, no matter what shape they would have come in at.

    Douglas knew that Holyfield was a better "Fighter" than even a peak Tyson and basically surrendered...

    Ruiz will not fall into that category believe me, he will win this rematch and it will look like a complete mismatch.
     
  11. Unforgiven

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    Yeah, I don't really see the "Buster Douglas" comparison with Ruiz.
    Douglas went off and got himself a $23 miliion payday against Holyfield and came in a bit heavy and didn't make the greatest showing. Douglas was almost certainly never good enough to beat a quality boxer-fighter like Holyfeild anyway, and had far less reach and height advantage against him than he'd had to utilize aganst Tyson. Styles make fights.
    If Douglas had taken the Tyson rematch, and for a lot less money, that would be a comparison.
    Tyson idolizers will disagree but I think Douglas would have won a rematch if it had happened 6 months after the first fight.

    Douglas v Holyfield is more like if Ruiz went and fought Tyson Fury and was getting $45 million or something guaranteed.
     
  12. BigDoofus

    BigDoofus Active Member Full Member

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    Have we entered his 12 week VADA testing?
    Any evidence of him ever getting tested in Dubai, Jamaica, Oregon or Nigeria in his overseas camps?
     
  13. Unforgiven

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    The whole blood testing anti-doping procedure is discredited anyway.
    Some of these guys might be failing tests and we never even get to hear about it.
    The only reason Whyte's failed test came out is because someone leaked it.

    We have no idea if UKAD and VADA and whoever else deal with everyone the same way.
    People are stupid if they have any faith in the system.
    I've been saying for years these agencies aren't necessarily bastions of integrity. Everyone uses PEDs anyway. And even if they do happen to get "caught" publicly or privately, the top guys can smooth much of it over with the help of good lawyers.

    Joshua gets some unfair flak for juicing simply because he has a great physique. He uses PEDs but everyone does.
    On the other hand, he's the "house fighter" and people are in their rights to suspect that the people behind him get him the best protection available and it's not a level playing field.
     
  14. Scissors

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    The simple answer to everything you asked is I don’t know.

    He’s only been in Jamaica post Fight on holiday for a week. Nigeria I’ve only seen him there once that was after the Ruiz defeat. Dubai he’s been several times. Oregon I’m not sure.

    I’ll continue to post when he gets tested though and if he’s away at the time and where.

    In answer to the 12 weeks we are just outside it, that would begin Saturday but he’s enlisted in the WBC 365 day a year programme.
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    Robert McCracken has come under fire in the press today after admitting he knew Joshua was concussed from round 3.
    Brain injury charity Headway have publicly admonished Joshua's trainer for not stopping the fight.

    Boxers and trainers to learn to shut up about injuries and concussions.
    The sport is brutal and barbaric, but let's stop reminding people of that.
     
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