Joshua v Ruiz Press conference

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Degale, Sep 3, 2019.


  1. rski

    rski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Maybe the buster Douglas situation was a bad, obvious, comparison. on a side not though, he came in to the Holyfield fight out of shape I believe, I don't think it was in his mind that Holy was better than Tyson etc, he was just there for the pay cheque. I guess Douglas was seen more as a no hoper before the Tyson fight, whereas Ruiz was a more solid contender before his fight with AJ.

    I hope you are right anyway, I am rooting for Ruiz and feel he has a good attitude. I just talking about that thing we cant know fully, how does it effect a guy like that, who came from nothing, to achieving his dream and rolling in money? will he still have that same drive to keep the status his has, or will it be dulled by the new success? At this point after hearing him in interviews I'd be inclined to think he is ok but it also wouldnt shock me if he came in woefully out of shape, enabling AJ to capitalise.
     
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  2. BigDoofus

    BigDoofus Active Member Full Member

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    How do you know he's been tested? His instagram?
    Is he in the UK?
     
  3. rski

    rski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I guess in making the excuses they are dropping themselves in it, its easier to stomach the beating AJ took after the 3rd round if they say he was hampered in some way. They should have just kept quiet, nothing they say changes what happened in the fight, instead, the more time goes on, the more the excuses are coming. Letting AJ fight after getting knocked out in sparring doesn't help either, so the concussion stories just add to those rumours.
     
  4. Twentyman

    Twentyman Watching Netball with Adam Smith Full Member

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    I’ve done a lot of charity work for Headway. What they do for people with acquired brain injury is just fantastic. Can totally understand their point.

    I said, a day or two after the fight that it should have been stopped by the ref from the 2nd knockdown. His legs were all over the shop from the 1st knockdown. He was in Narnia.

    I know some will accuse me of being a snowflake, but there is no chance of a concussion clearing up during a fight. The lights are on but nobody is home, as we could all see when he couldn't absorb the instructions in the corner and kept trying to throw hooks for the remainder of the fight before taking more needless punishment in the 6th and 7th which would have added serious mileage on the AJ clock.

    I reckon part of the reason Fury’s took them 2 soft touches is to stay relevant but also recover from the concussion from the Wilder fight.

    Just to add, imo December is too soon to jump back in a fight of the magnitude so soon after that last pummelling. He will be much more susceptible to concussion again from a temple shot.
     
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  5. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, it's a silly excuse anyway, isn't it ? I mean, it does nothing for AJ's confidence to dwell on the fact that one hard sharp punch from Ruiz can effectively destroyed his abilities at any time.
    And it's logical to surmise that if Ruiz could land it as early as the 3rd round then it's likely he'll land it again, sooner or later.
     
  6. rski

    rski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yep this is the thing that makes me laugh with the Ruiz detractors saying he got a lucky punch, if they really think Ruiz wont land that type of punch again, with his height and style, they are in la la land.
     
  7. Scissors

    Scissors Up the reds Full Member

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    It was on his story yes and yeah he’s in London.
     
  8. channy

    channy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I hear what you are saying regarding BD, and yeah he came in in terrible shape and can remember Gary Mason saying as soon as he saw him on the scales he knew he would lose, BD went in to the Tyson fight with lots of things on his mind, deaths and illnesses in the family, and he gave it his all and climbed the mountain, people emphasise too much on mike not being motivated etc etc.

    For the EH fight, the money he was getting was huge and he had climbed that mountain already and couldnt do it again sadly.

    Ruiz i believe wont have that problem, and to be fair to him he beat AJ quite easily despite the knockdown, nothing i see so far convinces me he cant repeat it, and will do it even quicker next time.

    If you look at him on the pads for the first fight, you could see the game plan right there, and during the fight you can see how he repeated it in the ring, and that was with a few weeks notice, this time with a full camp AJ should know already he is getting starched.
     
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  9. Willis Brown

    Willis Brown Member Full Member

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    The statistics are on Ruiz's side in that the victor in the previous fight usually repeats the result quicker , there are always exceptions I.e. Lewis v Rahman . Unfortunately AJ has a couple of shortcomings ,which are I unlikely to be eliminated , in his chin and his cardio. It is unlikely that AJ's plan will be to get in a fire fight early with Ruiz so it's going to be a long range tactical job in the hope he doesn't run out of gas. I certainly wouldn't put a penny on him regaining the title.
     
  10. chico g

    chico g Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joshua 's never really had that opponent, who could take his power. I thought Miller would have did something similar if the fight took place. The bodybuilder s probably going to lean down in the rematch and go back to the basics. Judging from his Ronnie Coleman styled physique he probably spent too much time in his training camp doing heavy resistance training. You can tell from how rock solid he looked. He made that idiotic mistake thinking he could over power the blob and paid for it dearly. I do think Joshua will come in much lighter, and up the workrate. He didn't throw as many punches against Ruiz as usually does against other opponents.
     
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  11. Scissors

    Scissors Up the reds Full Member

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    joshua had a random drugs test yesterday. And this morning he’s having another random drugs test.

    that’s 3 in the past 3/4 weeks that I’ve noticed and I’m not that active on social media. Are the authorities stepping it up?
     
  12. Citizen Smith

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    They say Andy isn't a big puncher but he's tko'd or ko'd just over half of his opponents. When we're watching fights there's so much ambient noise that you don't get to hear a lot of the punches, plus it's glove on skin so not quite as loud as on the pad, but watching and hearing Andy smacking those pads is very impressive. Of all the heavies (Deontay's right hammer aside), Andy is the one I would not want to fight.
     
  13. Scissors

    Scissors Up the reds Full Member

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    seen an interview with Parker who said he’s the hardest puncher he’s been in with.
     
  14. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Whyte & Tyrone Spong!! Full Member

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    A line has been drawn in the sand.

    85% of the forum believe AJ will lose again.

    Me and few other intelligent people here believe vice versa.
     
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  15. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think that's about normal these days.
    The thing is, no one cares at this point because getting tested means nothing to us. As far as we know he could be testing positive for PEDs regularly but we'd never know if he's got a good legal team and the right people on his side.
    No one has any faith whatsoever in the system.
     
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