Joshua Vs Dubois

How many people picked Mike Tyson over Buster Douglas? Is Mike overrated too? And if he is, is it because of the Buster fight or not quite?

 

Tyson's upset vs. Douglas is a completely different situation than Anthony Joshua latest "upset". Joshua entered the Dubois fight with 3 losses, a fraudulent Olympic gold, and a resume of extremely tactical matchmaking.

Joshua simply doesn't have a strong record of taking on dangerous top 10 guys under 40. It's Joseph Parker and not much else. The Dubois fight shined a bright light on that fact.

 

No, Joshua got dominated. It wasn't competitive before the KO and his mythical resume has always been overrated

 

Not comparing to his peers. If AJ's resume was manufactured and overrated, what does that say about Wilder's and Fury's? Especially Wilder's.

 

That they were match making carefully. Doesn't change that Fury would still clear ajs resume. He's a better fighter its simple. Wilder doesn't matter

 

Do you think Joshua has been overrated throughout his career?

 

I think he could have been a bit overrated around 2018 by his fanboys, but again, he was the best heavyweight in the world at that stage. After his Ruiz loss, I think he was rated properly, or even underrated sometimes. People refused to give him credit for the things he should have gotten it and his weaknesses were being blown up out of proportion. He however was again being overrated in the recent time, because of his win over Ngannou, which was ridiculous. He was impressive against Wallin, but this didn't warrant the hype he got.

 

So every fighter that gets dominated whilst the favourite is over rated?

 

The thing is, wouldas don't exist. Maybe he would, maybe he wouldn't.

This still remains to be seen. The books on Fury are still open. If he gets stopped by Usyk, the perception will change again.

 

Dominated by someone who lost to inferior opposition while a significant favorite ? Yes. Dominating the rematch can partially cover the loss howeever. Overrated is a spectrum, dont get it twisted. aj is on the deep end of the spectrum.

You do know what overrated means right ? It doesn't have to mean you suck, it means you're OVER RATED by the public. He's not as good as the majority of boxing fans said he was. joshua is not an elite fighter

 

And he's still going to perform better than aj and give Usyk another difficult fight unlike joshua. Usyk said joshua is classic boxer, Fury is sparkling water. joshua just got smoked by a 3rd underdog after being given a free shot at the titles which he did not deserve, why do you people insist he's elite

 

So when Donaire was dominated by Rigo, does that mean he's over rated?

Or when Frazier was dominated by Foreman?

Or when Wlad was dominated by Sanders?

 

Because he is. He's one of 3 best heavyweights of this era. Time will tell if he's a second or third best. Still water or sparkling water, doesn't matter. Still waters run deep.

Joshua got smoked by a live underdog, because he actually decided to fight one. When Fury fights him and schools him, you can count it against AJ in Fury comparisons. For now, AJ lost to 2 guys, who Fury didn't even fight. He lost to the third one. And after Usyk beat AJ, Fury fanboys were saying how he WOULD destroy the blown up middleweight unlike AJ. Just like you saying he WOULD clear AJ's resume. And well... he almost got knocked out. Like I said, wouldas don't exist.

 

Actually yes Wlad was overrated at that point, he improved afterwards, and im going to be be honest, Frazier is overrated on the greatness spectrum too. He has a very solid resume and one of the greatest wins ever, but he has vulnerabilities and didn't encounter many super heavyweights. I don't consider him an ATG like many people say, but he's was amongst the elite.

Donaire can be considered slightly overrated

 

Usyk isn't a win on ajs resume. He got schooled twice. Fury clears everyone that joshua beat and wouldn't lose a round to Andy Ruiz. You can call it shoulda woulda coulda but even Ben Davison and Usyk said Fury is better. The majority of fans and boxing pundits see Fury as a better fighter for good reason.

joshua was never UKs best heavyweight, not even if Fury retired. I reckon Itauma and Bakole would destroy him at this point. You can wank his resume off but DDDs resume was pretty weak before he smoked aj. He even lost to Joyce, dropped 3 times by Kevin Lerena in a suspicious stoppage, still smashed aj