Joshua vs Ortiz in 2018

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by svenchakabate2, May 12, 2025 at 3:18 AM.


Who would win?

  1. Joshua PTS

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    4.0%

  2. Ortiz PTS

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  3. Joshua KO/TKO

    13 vote(s)
    52.0%

  4. Ortiz KO/TKO

    11 vote(s)
    44.0%
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  1. svenchakabate2

    svenchakabate2 New Member Full Member

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    Lets say instead of Wilder, Ortiz faced Anthony Joshua on 03.03.2018. How do you see this playing out? Would Ortiz be tricky for Joshua and catch him with nasty counters and finish him, or Joshua walks through him?
     
    svenchakabate2, May 12, 2025 at 3:18 AM
    svenchakabate2, May 12, 2025 at 3:18 AM
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  2. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ortiz KO
     
    MarkusFlorez99, May 12, 2025 at 3:19 AM
    MarkusFlorez99, May 12, 2025 at 3:19 AM
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  3. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ortiz knock out
     
    AdamT, May 12, 2025 at 3:33 AM
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  4. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

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    Ortiz could have taken on Ustinov, and/or Joshua, but he fought Wilder twice.

    Homer Simpson has a word for that .. 'Doh!'.
     
    kostya by ko, May 12, 2025 at 3:51 AM
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  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder had a belt and was with pbc
     
    MarkusFlorez99, May 12, 2025 at 3:56 AM
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  6. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Still raging that we didnt see Bowe V Lewis Full Member

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    Late KO for AJ if hes in his prime.

    Ortiz then was quite good and is IMO better than his detractors say he is and he could really bang and counter hard but his footwork and stamina were mediocre. Unlike Usyk.
     
    Ice8Cold, May 12, 2025 at 5:38 AM
    Ice8Cold, May 12, 2025 at 5:38 AM
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  7. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

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    True. Fair point.
     
    kostya by ko, May 12, 2025 at 6:54 AM
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  8. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joshua had an opportunity to fight Ortiz when Hearn signed him to Matchroom, but he kept him far away from Joshua and put him in with Dave Allen instead…

    Clearly Hearn didn’t have faith Joshua could beat Ortiz.
     
    DaRealJT, May 12, 2025 at 9:40 AM
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  9. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He didn't have an opportunity tho. The timelines don't add up. Eddie signed Ortiz in October 2016. AJ was in talks to fight Klitschko in December, but Wlad got injured and the fight was moved to April. AJ chose Molina as the replacement instead as Ortiz was already scheduled to fight Allen for the WBA mandatory spot. After that, Ortiz switched teams and went to PBC. He would have fought AJ in early 2018, but got caught on PEDs in the meanwhile and lost the WBA mandatory spot.
     
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    MaccaveliMacc, May 12, 2025 at 10:40 AM
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  10. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AJ by KO the same way he dispatched of Povetkin who was a better fighter and stronger puncher than Ortiz.
     
    MaccaveliMacc, May 12, 2025 at 10:40 AM
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  11. Macedoine62

    Macedoine62 Active Member Full Member

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    Joshua by KO 7-8 and I'm agree with the opinion of Maccaveli I see a fight similar than the Povetkin's fight.
     
    Macedoine62, May 12, 2025 at 10:51 AM
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  12. peter_uk

    peter_uk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When the fight was first mooted I thought Ortiz was all wrong for Joshua, and it's Ortiz's biggest career mishap that he listened to Al Haymon and turned the fight down. I would have backed Ortiz to put Joshua on Bambi legs with a sneaky left hand and then finish the job.
     
    peter_uk, May 12, 2025 at 11:45 AM
    peter_uk, May 12, 2025 at 11:45 AM
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  13. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    AJ would have beat him up
     
    Wizbit1013, May 12, 2025 at 11:46 AM
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  14. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joshua would stop him late. He gets a bit underrated because of his performance post-Ruiz but he was different before getting his cherry popped.
     
    ForemanJab, May 12, 2025 at 12:04 PM
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  15. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    AJ by ko, he is just better than Ortiz in just about every category. Odd that op picked a losing version of Ortiz as well.
     
    Toney F*** U, May 12, 2025 at 12:29 PM
    Toney F*** U, May 12, 2025 at 12:29 PM
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