JOSHUA VS POVETKIN FINALIZED DEAL THIS WEEK?!?!

One of the most fear knockout punchers in the division isn't bring a knife to a gun fight. SMH dude. How can you honestly type this drivel with a straight face?

 

Povetkin was on peds and never had power until he started doping. Hes probably off now but knocking out a glass jawed guy like price who has been brutally koed multiple times doesnt impress me. Wilder has real power not ped power like povetkin.

 

At the time, Deontay Wilder was exposed by Johan Duhaupas. Wilder practically made Duhaupas look like a prime Gennady Golovkin. Wilder was out-jabbed, outclassed, out-boxed, and had his face massively busted up and damaged by Johan Duhaupas whilst also arguably being down on the scorecard (or at best, dead even) at the time of the premature, gifted hometown stoppage. Wilder couldn't even drop this Johan Duhaupas after 11 rounds of landing punches with full force. So where was Wilder's 'one shot KO power' against Duhaupas? Why wasn't Duhaupas a KO victim of Wilder? Where was Wilder's 'one hitta quitta' against Duhuapas? Oh that's right! They got exposed and were almost non-existent the ssecond time he faced a PRIME opponent from the top 10 (first was Bermane Stiverne in the first fight).

Keep in mind, this was Wilder getting exposed and embarrassed by Duhaupas in his hometown of Alabama.

Now when Johan Duhaupas fought against Alexander Povetkin, Duhaupas looked like a total bum. He couldn't even land a single meaningful punch on Povetkin throughout the entire fight. Lost every round until he was brutally KO'ed unconscious in the 6th round. Whilst Povetkin's pale skin barely even had a scratch on it.

In other words, Alexander Povetkin > Johan Duhaupas in pretty much every department and by a wide margin. So if Wilder couldn't even drop Duhaupas after 11 rounds of landing flush punches, what makes you think Povetkin would be another KO victim of Wilder?

Povetkin never failed any drug tests. His power has always been there. Povetkin's body weight, physique and speed right now is roughly the same as it was since 2014. So how could his power be different when the main components for power (speed, body weight and technique) is still the same?

Likewise, I'm not impressed with Wilder knocking out 40 year old guys with high blood pressure who were almost not even allowed to enter the ring. Nor am I impressed with Wilder's knockout wins over bums / journeymen who have been stopped multiple times, before and after facing Deontay Wilder.

David Price is equivalent to over 80% of all of Wilder's knockout victims that Wilder has been knocking out!

 

Povetkin won the gold medal in the super heavyweight division. He was cleared by VADA before the Wilder fight was supposed to happen, but Haymon's WBC would still not allow Povetkin to fight him, HAYMON BOXING INSURANCE! I am tired of people lying about Povetkin's test, VADA cleared him.

 

That would be a massive, massive fight and great news!

 

Would be a good fight.Povetkin if he is good shape could be dangerous.needs to attack Aj from the start set a fast pace and work in close .The nestor fight when AJ was an amateur would be a good starting point.

 

So you don't think Deontay Wilder (who weighed 214 last time out) is big enough to be in the same division as ANYONE he's beaten in his last eight title fights and he shouldn't be in the same division as Joshua or Parker because Deontay is too small?

You need to go away.

The heavyweight champion is supposed to be able to beat EVERYONE in the world, regardless of weight or size.

If you CAN'T, then you don't deserve to be heavyweight champion today. It's not up to anyone to make "a new division for you so you can win a belt."

People who want a heavyweight AND a super heavyweight division simply don't understand anything about the history of the sport.

 

People forget that everyone over 175 was a HW in the 70's. Then the CW division was created and it moved to 190, now it's 200 lbs and we need no more than that!

Today's HW division isn't full of great talents and some people want it to be separatedX2. Both divisions in that case would be very poor in terms of talent and potential match-ups.

 

He won a gold medal in the super heavyweight division because his opponent didn't show up.

A lot of guys would've won the gold medal if their opponent didn't show up that day.

David Izon, David Defiagbon and Sultan Ibragiov would all be Olympic Gold Medalists if Felix Savon didn't show up that day. Ionas Chepulis would've won the Olympic gold medal if George Foreman hadn't bothered to show up for the final. Baik Hyun Man would've been the first South Korean to win a heavyweight gold medal in the Olympics if Ray Mercer hadn't bothered to show up for the final.

 

Joshua s cv shitting all over the 40-0 American
Shame shame do you know his name

 

Exactly. The division finally has a handful of decent fighters and people want to split it up. To hell with that.

If Povetkin is "too small" to beat Joshua, then Povetkin isn't good enough to be the heavyweight champion.

 

Pov isn't shot. Past his best? Seems so. Still capable and a top 5 HW? I'd say so. He at worst had the tools to beat AJ once upon a time and I think he will have more success than Parker did. He mixes up his height well and throws to the body plenty. He gets himself out of range quickly too. Though against Price, some of those hooks looked a lot more predictable than we're used to seeing. I don't think he looked as awful against Price as some are saying though.

It's still a good fight IMO but that size will be very, very telling.

 

Also, source seems to be the Daily Mail which is legit one of the most trash and unreliable news sources in the Uk

 

Deontay Wilder has weighed over 230 pounds of mostly muscles with almost no visible fat in some of his past fights. Plus, he is also 6 foot 7 with an 83 inch reach. However, I admit Wilder is a borderline example of a modern day super heavyweight. Anthony Joshua, Tyson Fury and the Klitschkos are definitive modern day super heavyweights.

I don't believe Anthony Joshua, Klitschkos and Tyson Fury belong in the same weight division as the likes of Alexander Povetkin, Carlos Takam, Bryant Jennings and etc. Simply because, the size difference plays a bigger difference in outcomes of bouts between these boxers, rather than actual boxing skills.

Let's not pretend size doesn't matter, since it clearly does. Otherwise, we may as well create a scenario where there aren't any weight divisions whatsoever and everybody of every size / weight should be allowed to fight each other for only one world title in a single open weight division. And you may as well claim that if one isn't good enough to win a title, irrespective of size / weight, then one doesn't deserve to be a world champion.

There is a reason why since the late 1990's and the early 2000's, the number 1, most dominant heavyweights have always been at least 6 foot 4 inches in height and +240 pounds in weight. This is not a coincidence! Why haven't there been small heavyweights smaller than that size, the most dominant number 1 heavyweights in the world since that time?

The names of the new weight divisions above 200 pounds could be anything. For example, a division from 200-225 pounds could be named 'super cruiser weight' or 'heavyweight' whilst a division above 225 or 230 pounds could be named 'super heavyweight' or 'heavyweight'. Whatever the names may be, the point remains, that new weight divisions are required above 200 pounds. Otherwise, we may as well remove some of, if not all of the weight divisions that we have below 200 pounds.

 

AJ gets no credit for winning this fight.