Joshua vs Povetkin is an absolute mismatch and was well calculated by Eddie Hearn!

It is funny how at HW size doesn’t get mentioned the same,you can’t even put it into context how many pounds AJ has on Povetkin,who can forget how ordinary and bereft of ideas Povetkin was against Wlad.

 

I know many disagreed with your thread about super heavyweights against those at 6”3 say,I was one who was in agreement as you did give a small percent chance of the smaller guy winning but in reality it’s like 80/20.

 

You're making wild assumptions. I don't hate Povetkin! Not sure how you arrived at that conclusion.

And that's not Povetkin in my profile picture. Take a closer look and you'll find that it's not Povetkin.

I'm just stating facts here. On the contrary, I'm a huge fan of Povetkin. But, I'm not a fan of him being a heavyweight. He would be my favorite fighter (due to his style), if he fought at cruiser weight or even light heavyweight. But he has no business fighting at heavyweight and putting his health at huge risk against giant behemoths.

Can you honestly say that Povetkin and Joshua even belong in the same ring together after looking at the pictures I posted? It's insane and preposterous that people even consider such fights as legitimate fights when in actual fact, they are disgusting, pathetic and repulsive mismatches against the much smaller guy.

But most of those same people spend most of their time arguing about how PEDs create unfair uneven playing fields. Yet, this size mismatch is just as much, if not even more unfair and dangerous.

 

Outside of HW it’s like Amir Khan facing Kovalev

 

Threadstarter is an absolute troll!

 

I really don’t know if you’re trolling or just not very bright. You wrote the same drivel when Povetkin fought Price, and we all know how that went. I surely wasnt fearing for the health of Povetkin, when Price was laying cold on the floor. Same thing when Povetkin was beating Wach from pilar to post.

Size DOES make a difference of course, but you make it sound like size=win, which is very far from the truth.

 

Price>Crawford.

There are weight classes for a reason. 50 years ago when Ali was the best of the 200+ pounders the average weight of the Rings top 10 heavyweights was 203.8(!) lbs that year... You didn't need to separate them with another weight class back then because even the biggest of them barely outsized their competition anyway...

Here are their average weights and weights from their fights of 1968:

203.66 (Frazier: 203+203.5+204.5)
197.5 (Ellis: 198+197)
205.25 (Bomevana: 207+206+205+206+204+203.5)
207.17 (Chuvalo: 208+208.5+207+210.5+197+212)
220.39 (Liston: 215.75+219+223+221+219+222+223)
198.75 (Quarry: 203+204+195+193)
194.4 Martin: 200+199+199+195+194
205.7 (Ramos: 210+196+208+208.5+206)
216.67 (Lewis: 215+212+215+218+219+22)
188.5 (Patterson: 188.5)

Average: 203.8

The only outlier (Liston) outsize his average competition with a little bit more than 16 pounds...

You simply didn't have to add another superheavyweight division back then.

 

No doubt size matters to a certain degree in boxing hence the need for weight classes but it's not the be all and end all in regards to performance and results. Hence why you have smaller guys going up in weights and having success and there being examples of plenty of smaller fighters like Tyson, Frazier, Marciano etc being on the small side yet beating bigger men regularly.

Povetkin fits this mould he's small for a modern heavyweight but fact is all but 8 of his 35 opponents have been bigger than him, yet he has beaten all but one of them. Which means he has a 96% success rate against fighters bigger than him.

So it's pretty clear being bigger than Povetkin alone doesn't guarantee victory, far from it in fact.

 

Define your definition of “bigger”. Are we talking height, weight or a combination. Because the “small” heavyweights are also much heavier today. Povetkin is hovering around 230, Parker is in the 240’s, Takam who is shredded weighs over 230 consistently etc.

Those three are some of the top “small” heavyweights, and they all weigh more than “Big Bear” Liston or “Big” George Foreman even. The heavyweights are bigger today, thats just how it is.

 

It's easy why some might think you are a troll. You rag on a 38 year old, past prime, PED free Povetkin as a poor opponent for Joshua then have a 38 year old, past prime, PED free boxer as your avatar pic.

 

I like Povetkin, should be a good fight while it lasts although AJ is the massive favorite. First half of the fight will hopefully be somewhat competitive.