Joshua - Whyte is going to be a PPV fight

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Blobby Nelson, Sep 19, 2015.


  1. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Is there really a huge difference between this fight and the AJ-Cornish one which was on TV not PPV ?? I mean will AJ's purse for a British title fight really be so astronomical compared to his last fight that this has to be on PPV ??

    The Fury-Wlad fight for example fair enough that's a genuine PPV with the best British Heavy right now fighting the undisputed number 1 Heavy.
    Sorry mate but I'm not buying your argument and one more thing : If enough people buy this PPV it's only going to get worse, either Eddie will increase prices or even less prestigious fights will end up on PPV. Fancy paying £15 to watch Luke Campbell challenge for the European title ?? :yep
     
  2. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Boxing does not have the right demographic of fans for advertizing purposes. So for a high cost product it needs to work as either a one off event, that is exclusive and thus expensive, or it works by gaining a premium off the general public. Either way, if you want to watch pro boxing you will have to pay, and the more popular the fight, the more promoters will try to make a profit.
     
  3. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Eddie knows how popular AJ so he's going to fleece the fans for a fight that should never in a million years be on PPV.

    Nothing to do with production costs or any other *******s. If AJ's purse and production costs for the Cornish fight could be covered by TV revenue, ticket prices, other advertising then so can the Whyte fight. Yes, AJ will get a bigger fee for this but there will also be more viewers if it was on TV and a bigger crowd paying higher ticket prices so more revenue.
     
  4. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But as I mentioned the TV money will remain the same if it is on Sky Sports; but as this is a bigger fight than the Cornish bout, with more perceived risks, the costs will be higher. And if it is thought PPV will work, it is the only option. Otherwise no one, but those who would pay an even bigger price to go to the Dome, will be able to view it.
     
  5. Gatekeeper

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    So what you're saying is if the fans boycotted this PPV entirely then the fight would have to be cancelled because the production costs/purses are so astronomical that TV revenue couldn't cover it and that is why that renowned socialist and man of the people Eddie Hearn is putting this on PPV ?

    Matchroom are hiring Spin Doctors right now I've been told. Considered applying ??
     
  6. Blobby Nelson

    Blobby Nelson Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Yes, obviously.

    PPV is not a new concept, you realise this?
     
  7. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes. What's your point ?
     
  8. TheDog

    TheDog 60/40 I kick yo a$s Full Member

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    Wow Eddy Horn taking a **** on the UK fans.

    I guess he realizes he has got to cash out on Joshua as much as possible. Seeing how David "The Tinman" Price KO'd Joshua in sparring it's only a matter of time till this hype job gets the X
     
  9. I Shot JR

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    The Fury/Wlad fight is live across the rest of Europe on RTL which is free to air.

    I doubt Hearn will push more than four PPVs a year, albeit with stacked cards.
     
  10. TBooze

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  11. TBooze

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    The fight would not be cancelled, but the tickets to watch it at the Dome would be more expensive, and production costs would be cut, meaning less of a 'show'.

    As for spin doctors, that is up to Matchroom.

    Personally PPVs are fine with me: No travelling a nice comfy seat and a bottle of wine; all for £30ish; yes I know, I am old!

    So I also remember the alternatives: Not being able to watch the fight or a horrible Closed Circuit event.
     
  12. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I don't remember saying that any of the other rats were any better. I hate them too.

    Boxing really needs to give these con artists the elbow if it wants a sustainable future.

    And boxing doesn't need PPV, Wlad proves this. You need star power and you build your profile by... having free to air fights and media work. This draws high ratings, ratings draw advertisers and THEN everybody wins.
     
  13. TBooze

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    It has survived with its present model for a couple of centuries, so I doubt much is going to change anytime soon...

    Yes Central/Eastern Europe is doing well; much like America in the 70s and the UK in the 80s. So in other words they are thirty years behind the UK in boxing evolution; which means they are about a decade away from the start of PPV...
     
  14. Pro Punter

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    Wrong

    Wlad could have been PPV every fight but chose not to.

    The Europeans are not mugs and will not pay inflated prices for fights or TV.

    That is why 1/3 of the Imtech Arena was empty for Wlad v Haye - the ticket prices doubled and the stadium would have looked empty without the British fans.
     
  15. Blobby Nelson

    Blobby Nelson Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    German TV pays a lot more for the rights and the free-to-air companies in Germany actively compete against each other which drives prices up; in this country not a single free-to-air channel has any interest in boxing. This has a knock-on effect that makes PPV necessary.