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Joshua / Wilder NOT gonna happen COS OF STEROIDS

Discussion in 'General Boxing Forum' started by Potato80, Jun 13, 2018.



  1. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Anthony Joshua is juiced to the gills.
    But he's not likely to be scared of tests. He has the top specialists sorting out he programme at this point. He can pass the tests. They are several steps ahead of the testers, you can bet.
     
  2. The Clan

    The Clan Active Member Full Member

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    Ha Ha

    Joker
     
  3. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's true.
    Are some sports fans still so dumb that they think athletes passing hundreds of tests proves they are CLEAN ?
    Is you believe that then you truly are a joker.
     
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  4. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Wow. Now it's not even enough to pass a test to exonerate someone in the PED conspiracy theorist community! Astounding!

    Me, I could care less about the whole thing. Seriously, who gives a flying **** what any athlete puts in their body. That's their business. Boxers, and other athletes, have been doing thing to get an edge since the beginning of sports. And they always will.
     
  5. KingFury64

    KingFury64 Active Member Full Member

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    Do you have proof or are you just taking out of your arse?
     
  6. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I’m certain Juishua is juicing, no doubt about it, that’s one of the reasons he does not want to fight outside of UK.
    Wilder knows it , everybody in boxing community prob knows it, but it UK he’s covered. If you think AJ is clean , you either british, dumb , or don’t know much about ped’s and sports in general.
     
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  7. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course, it's not enough to pass a test. Lance Armstrong, Marion Jones, just about every athlete using BALCO, passed loads of test, hundreds, thousands maybe. Just to name a few well-known examples. And that was years ago. Athletes and their teams only getting smarter with it.

    Not sure what the "conspiracy theorist community" is. It's hardly an outrageous paranoid belief to believe athletes ARE using PEDs and 90% of them ARE getting away with it.
    The testing agencies themselves admit that they are probably only catching a very small fraction of users.

    I agree. That's exactly how I feel.
    They ARE doing it. They ARE getting away with it. And it's just the way it is.
    Me, I'll just sit back and enjoy the drug-enhanced-performances and don't condemn any of them. They work hard and, just like the rest of us in the modern world, they should be allowed to take modern medicine to help them cope with that workload.
     
  8. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Excellent post, agree completely
     
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  9. delboy82

    delboy82 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    BBC did a documentary where one of their reporters started using PEDS he had an expert guiding him. In a few weeks he had improved massively. So much so he had to stop cycling with his usual team as the difference in his performance was clearly noticeable and he was too embarassed (he didnt tell anyone what he was doing) during this docu he went to Brussels (might have been Brugge) to be tested and passed. He told the guys there what he was on and had been doing and they didnt seem surprised in the slightest. They said they reckon they only catch around 10% of cheats they test. I will try and find a link to it so you can watch for yourself.

    Edit: it was a Panorama episode called "Catch me if you can".

    BBC documentary with Mark Daly
     
  10. shavers

    shavers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Go away troll....Weak attempt!
     
  11. The Clan

    The Clan Active Member Full Member

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    Very good post,

    It’s not as straight forward as that though. . .

    Most of the athletes who get away with doping only to get caught years later are also rans, unknowns who compete to an average international level. They slip through the net because there’s no focus on them and they aren’t vigorously and consistently tested throughout the year because it’s impossible to do so due to the sheer number of athletes at that level.

    It’s when they show extraordinary improvements that seemingly come from nowhere that they attract attention and get caught or they rise slowly and start winning which sets them above the pack where the testing agencies take notice.

    There’s also athletes, like Marion Jones who compete and dope in cycles leading into a major event like the Olympics every 4 years, World Championships every 4 years etc. That type of training/doping cycle makes it easier to manage the doping regime to avoid detection.

    Joshua is tested randomly all year round by as many as four agencies, it isn’t possible to manage that or mask it with other substances.

    Yes, doping labs are always trying to stay ahead but even new substances and masking agents can’t hide from 200 tests per year every year.
     
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  12. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I’d like to see it, do you know what was the name of documentary, or where I could find it?
     
  13. delboy82

    delboy82 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes it was a programme called panorama. They do loads of documentaries this specific episode was called catch me if you can. It was on BBC i player but I don't think it is anymore. More likely find it on YouTube bud
     
  14. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    This is actually the closest thing to true in this entire thread. The overwhelming majority of Elite Athletes are using some form of PED's, the chemists and scientists developing these drugs are making obscene amounts of money, and they are always far ahead of the testers. If my livelihood and the ability to feed my family were on the line, I'd do everything I could to give them the life I believe they deserve too.
     
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  15. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. And AJ's problem isn't muscles, it is actually more like he needs less muscles and more skill. The dude really needs to wake up and realize he's not a body builder lol.

    That BS would have been closer to the truth 5 five years ago, but its silly today. The method of beating testing is not beating testing at all. It's the art of the TUE. TUE's let you use drugs w/o being tested for said drug or it counting against you. Voila, welcome to doping in 2018.
     
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