Joshua / Wilder NOT gonna happen COS OF STEROIDS

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  1. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Seriously if you think testing clean is sign of being clean then I’m not sure what to say.
    It’s highly likely both take PEDs and beat the system.
     
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  2. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I won’t defend AJ but I take it you don’t remember Wilder doing the same a few years ago,seems to have dropped the idea now of getting big but he went through a stage where he also put **** loads of muscle on.
    They’re no 1 and 2 in the world why wouldn’t they do it?
     
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  3. Geo1122

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    Yep, I would take their comments with a pinch of salt. Firstly, as stated, it appears to be 24lbs over 4 years, and secondly, gaining muscle mass is a very straight forward process for even the casual bodybuilder. Gaining an average of 6lbs a year is nothing to brag about. Honestly, it really isn’t. As for the bodyfat comment, I’m struggling to see this. Joshua, whilst extremely athletic, was not as chiselled in both the Wlad and Takam fight. Small margins of course, but he’s an athlete. This is without taking into consideration his genetics. This guy gets paid millions to be in shape and box. Honestly, it amazing me how other heavyweights allow themselves to be in anything but Peak condition.
     
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  4. KingFury64

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    Well Totty80 looks like you`re talking through your arse. Go and stand in the corner with the big pokey hat on.
     
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  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    "Take zee test! Take zee test!"
    -Jean Pascal
     
  6. S.K

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    You are correct, it is impossible.

    Especially taking into account the amount of cardio AJ does, this makes it a even harder to add muscle.

    As many other posters have said, the PED debate isn’t really a debate, I’d class it as a fact that AJ has used PEDs in his boxing career.

    People claiming ‘he’s never failed a test’ unfortunately (or fortunately!) have a little to much faith in the modern world. Lance Armstrong also, never ‘failed a test’.
     
  7. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Totally agree,it’s also off the mark to presume Wilders clean,one factor that always crops up with these elite athletes is that they have a “doctor”working with em on this stuff,this isn’t amateur hour.
     
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  8. Geo1122

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    What a load of nonsense. Gaining or losing weight is simply a case of calorie intake. You either eat at a deficit or a surplus. To put it simply, if Joshua, on a training day, burns 6000 calories, but his intake is 7000 calories, he’s on his way to gaining weight. This is without taking into account rest days, or when he’s not in an intensive training camp. Now, it’s not simply a case of eating any old calories, but I’m sure you get the point.

    Joshua may well be juicing, but my word, this is a lazy argument. On the flip side, so is the fact that he’s never been busted for suggesting he’s clean.
     
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  9. N17

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    So the ground work is being done now, this is what we are going to get if/when Joshua beats Wilder, thread after thread about Joshua and PED's.
     
  10. tdf1974

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    Absolutely no top 10 of any sportsman in any sport should ever be tested positive for PEDs....The testers are pizzling in the wind

    It is like the Police trying to catch everyone who grows weed,the illegal activity will always be 1 step ahead if they are any good..

    I am ALWAYS surprised how naive people are who have never taken steroids,they are so sure of their opinion yet have zero to base it on...Anyone with the slightest knowledge of roids knows AJ has taken them but i would say he has either massively reduced them or is off them now...You only have to look at his last couple of fights ,his size and shape changed and i am pretty sure he would have smashed them pair a year or 2 ago...This is the main reason why i think Wilder will beat him because it dont matter is wilder is 200lb or 230 lb that wild right hand is deadly
     
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  11. inner2deepz

    inner2deepz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    They catch more cheats than the other two you listed
     
  12. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Maybe, True ?? Definately
     
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  13. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    True story
     
  14. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Non issue because they are nearly all at it ??
     
  15. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Its because its obvious and the people that see it have balance and brains
     
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