Joshua / Wilder NOT gonna happen COS OF STEROIDS

What substances are they going to take in a way to avoid a positive? You are wording this to mean something different than you were implying which is they are masking or modifying drugs to defeat testing. That's not happening anymore. All the biggest doping programs by CYCLING TEAMS with national backing like Team Sky, are not doing it by organic chemistry. They are using less powerful prescription drugs (meant for medical use) via the TUE but in massive doses. And if multi-million dollar teams are doing this, yet you think/imply that individual Boxers are ****ing with steroids on a molecular level... sorry I have to lol. I think you are really missing this point. Fundamentally they are not masking drugs anymore, ie. straight beating tests. If they could still do this, THERE WOULD NOT EXIST THE MASSIVE ABUSE OF THE TUE. I'll add that changing molecules around in steroids is very 2000s. Since the advent of the CIR test, organic chemists in doping have gone extinct. That's because the CIR test detects synthetic steroids, regardless of their molecular makeup.

That said the good old doping to the gills, then cycling off before testing begins is the classic method. You can even micro dose EPO daily even during camp and not get popped because the doses are so small they don't show up. There are formulas for figuring out decay times for lack of a better description. But this doesn't work for year round testing.

But alas, this is not the golden bullet. To make it mean something you have use 3 times that amount daily.

And again, this isn't defeating a test straight up. It's avoiding the test altogether by waiting for one's haematocrit ratio to fall in line. They key is that you need doctors to research the duration timings for each individual. If one takes EPO randomly, do not be surprised by cardiac arrest. This is obviously really out of reach for most dopers. And the reality is that there is no guarantee either since one misstep and bam.

Heck, instead of paying an organic chemists one can try their luck with synthetic urine lol.

Biggest current doper in the world:

Chris Froome, he just killed the effing peloton in the Giro d'Italia. This is the arguably the hardest climb of the three Grand Tours, and I mean the hardest. And when I say killed, he absolutely just made the field of riders look like tomato cans. Chris' drug of choice, salbutamol. He was recently busted for two times the limit of this TUE protected drug. That means he was using it with a TUE, yet he blew threw the limit like Mario Andretti yet he was allowed to ride the Giro (facepalm). His levels were twice the allowed limit which brings up an interesting question. See it's impossible to get your salbutamol levels that high without direct injection.

Biggest point, with the millions at his disposal, teams of doctors at the ready, and all of that machina, his drug of choice is an asthma inhaler?

 

This is the 2nd time this week I have read on the forum this affront-to-the-English-language corruption of a perfectly good saying: 'I COULDN'T care less'...

Surely, if you 'could care less,' this means you do indeed care to some ill-defined degree, in the sense that your capacity to care has not diminished to its lowest possible point? English is a beautiful language. Cherish it; it's our gift to you...*




*Apologies for no mention of glass jaws.

 

When we have proff' about Ped's i'm more than happy to discuss about this,but we don't so it's cr*p till proven other wise.

 

I always look with suspicion at the year AJ took off between the 2012 Olympics and 2013 when he turned pro, a period in time when he was neither an amateur or professional and, therefore, not subject to any testing at all. He claimed he was taking his time to decide on a manager/promoter but surely it was always gonna be Matchroom? A lot of groundwork can be done in 12 months, which then only needs to be maintained.

I have read studies which claim the residual benefit of long term PED use can be felt for years after usage has stopped, because the effort needed to maintain muscle mass is much less than that required to build it.

I don't have a clue if he is on or had been on PEDs, but that 12 month window raises doubts for me...

 

Great point...

I know from experience you benefit from Juice long after it has cleared your system....This is zero AJ hate by the way....I think every top sportsman is 'enhanced' in some way ..

I dont think however the AJ v Wilder fight would not happen due to PEDs

If Usain Bolt can go through a career 'clean'while the next 9 fastest men all tested positive then AJ will too

 

I have 15 years experience...what can i help you to understand?

 

Juice long after it has cleared your system yes Wilder full of Ped's we can all tell this.

 

That is a great point too. You never know what powers that be lurk in the background. Hell we only have to look at how pathetic UKAD is with Team Sky.

 

If this fight doesnt happen it is because team Wilder have glass negotiating skills.

 

Exactly this!

And that's why tests mean nothing! Clean results mean nothing! Test frequency means nothing! Blood or urine means nothing! I don't understand why suckers keep using that as proof of anybody being clean.

The ONLY way to know if someone is clean is to come on a boxing message board and ASK!

 

ha.ha.ha.ha.

Someone clearly has never lifted a weight in his life.

 

Have you met my mother in law?

When my son was born she was there and I was so happy I picked her up, some people who witnessed it were stunned in to silence, they said I should have rang the Guinness Book Of Records..

So Ive lifted a weight even Eddie Hall wouldn't attempt.

 

Is that a fact or something you just guessing?

 

Until Joshua actually fail a test it’s no way to know for sure and it’s unfair to discredit his success to steroids.

and like you said, ppl that never done steroids do not know IT’S NOT something you take and instantly get great at something, if it was, everyone would take it.

Joshua is the man right now and him against Wilder is the right fight to make.