Joshua's performance vs Ruiz II is seriously underrated

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  1. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great performance by AJ, very underrated indeed.
     
  2. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AJ haters are idiots. Remember when Wallin was supposed to be a banana skin and give him a lot of trouble? Same for the Ruiz fight - a lot of people didn't give him a chance, said he couldn't adapt, he's one dimensional etc. Look at them now, lol. All the excuses.
     
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  3. Boxing Gloves

    Boxing Gloves Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He showed he had more dimensions than we thought, it was a solid performance, he stuck to a game plan and he showed real focus and improved stamina, was it the performance we wanted? No, but he did what was right for him to secure the win.
     
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  4. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I haven't watched it since the night of and I do think that the weight was the right weight for him and the mobility was what he needed.I felt him Bolting back up was a mistake.

    As good of a performance and dominating victory that it was, it was spoiled by Ruiz not coming in shape.
     
  5. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AJ followed this up with his perhaps best technical performance against Pulev.
     
  6. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How are we idiots for saying he is overrated? It is you guys that try to make him what he is not
    The very guy you are replying to actually called the Dubouis loss a fluke because he landed a right hand early? Like wtf? lol

    Many of us didn't pick Wallin, me included. What some of us did say was Aj would crack when he faces annother puncher who was able to put it on him and that's what happened vs Dubuois

    You can call us idiots all you like for hating on him, or underrating him, but imo the idiots are those who actually believed he was anything special
     
  7. Simon Says

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    lol

    Ruiz was like Mr Blobby. Must be a joke thread this
     
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  8. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AJ fanboys are delusional too, of course. But his haters are just comical at times repeating lies and changing the tune after the fights not going their way.
     
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  9. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mate all haters are similar, I credit Aj on his win over Ruiz, it was a good professional win and he proved he was a better fighter

    I troll at times, especially if someone is being overrated, but I do keep it real too

    Aj was a fantastic fighter (for this era, not all time imo), I can't deny it, but he didn't live up to the hype, but not many do and that includes Fury
     
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  10. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Someone just called Dubois stopping aj a fluke, this thread is trash. Ruiz already lost to Miller and couldn't beat a shot Ortiz.
     
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  11. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Funny how many dismiss all of that for Dillian Whyte when he faced Povetkin in the rematch. Not his fault Povetkin looked a bit off and he went right after Povetkin from first bell, despite being starched the last time round.
     
  12. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    You conveniently left out the second part.
    And there was no fluke in the actual KO. Dubois landed two solid counters, the second one flat-lining Joshua. I remember it vividly from watching it live. Joshua hurt Dubois and then went right after him. The moment Dubois landed that first counter I knew it would end badly, and it did. Joshua ran face first into it.
     
  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So you think Dubois aiming for joshuas chin and landing that telegraphed right hand was a fluke ? This is a indication you really overrate ajs boxing ability
     
  14. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    Yes, I do. Well, I say it was a fluke because It was an absolutely ridiculous punch and one that clearly changed the course of the fight. Well, set the course more than change it.
    Maybe I am overrating AJ, but I would like to see a rematch. Not because I think the result itself was a fluke, but because the fight pretty much ended in the first. I want to see Joshua actually be able to box against Dubois, if he is capable of it.
     
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  15. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    I'm not sure that's a fair summary of what Badbot said...

    I read that post as him saying he didn't think Dubois winning was necessarily a fluke, but he thought the manner of the loss and how early it was was a fluke - I'd tend to agree with him, I'm not convinced Dubois wouldn't have won anyway, but I think it looked a lot more dominant than it probably should've because of how early he got a huge punch in.

    On some level this is fair criticism - he's definitely looked more fragile since Ruiz... But it's also not like he hasn't taken some decent punches from guys who can bang before and won (Wlad, Pov, etc).

    The Dubois loss perhaps looks worse than maybe it should do just because of how early Dubois got to him.

    Special? No.

    But he was the clear #1 for several years - if it hadn't been such a weak division then it would've suggested he was special... But it was a weak division, and he wasn't ever without flaws.

    That said, the stiff idiot, protected, ducked Wilder, etc narratives are bull**** - he was a decent championship level fighter who made good fights... And on here he's probably been underrated a bit over the years, but "special" is certainly not the word for him.
     
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