Journalist Kevin Iole's biased tactics exposed and undressed - judge him yourself!

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  1. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kevin Iole, currently working for one of the major online news networks, demands Arthur Abraham to be suspended for 6 month for punching Andre Dirrell on the canvas in a serious illegal blow. Arthur Abraham was disqualified for the foul. Kevin Iole is entitled to his opinion as everyone else, but let's see how strictly he follows his OWN rules regarding fouls, and how he fares as a journalist, in a profession impartiality is a minimum requirement not a virtue. This thread is solely about Kevin Iole's qualities as a journalist, his lines are on the stake not the incidents he writes about.


    Kevin Iole, March 30, 2010:

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    Let's go back in time!


    A highly controversial incident during Marquez-Pacquiao I, May 8, 2004
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    Marquez is very clearly defenseless and since his left glove touches the canvas, officially down for over a second when Pacquiao hits him with his money punch, the flush left hand. Marquez complains for a split second then loses counsciousness for a few before barely getting up. The referee does not disqualify Pacquiao but rules it a knockdown. The journalists are there to be objective, if the referee isn't, let's see:


    Kevin Iole: Marquez, Pacquiao brawl to draw - Scoring error by judge makes difference in controversial result, May 9 2004, LV
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    No further mention of the 1st round in the article.

    Kevin Iole completely ignores the "heinous blow" landed by Pacquiao and the ONLY controversial thing in the fight in his book was the different scoring of the 1st round. In fact, he stunningly starts with "The hangman was coming to send JMM to the gallows"!

    Iole wrote another article on the same day, still only dealing with the debated scoring of the 1st round. "Manny Pacquiao would be the WBA/IBF featherweight champion today had judge Burt Clements been aware that he was able to score a round 10-6." Iole doesn't only ignore a disqualification or suspention call on Pacquiao, but feels Pacquiao should be the WINNER!


    Kevin Iole: Fighters Bring Different Strategies to Rematch, May 15, 2008, before Marquez-Pacquiao II
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    How come Kevin Iole remembers Pacquiao "strafing" Marquez with lefts, but doesn't remember the one left hand he'd disqualify and suspend other fighters for 6 month? How come he doesn't have a bad word for the illegal shot "that should have felled a heavyweight in the second"?

    DOUBLE STANDARD

    Kevin Iole remembers the fight all right, but his biased pen lets one fighter get away with the very serious foul and would suspend another fighter for 6 months.


    "The hangman was coming to send Juan Manuel Marquez to the gallows"

    Can you imagine

    "The hangman was coming to send Andre Dirrell to the gallows"


    That is Kevin Iole. Would you employ such a journalist if your job was to find the most impartial, unbiased and objective writer?
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    if the fighter can continue fighting then there's no reason for a DQ

    also, though Marquez was officially down, he was holding himself up with the ropes which can cause some ambiguity. For example when Marquez held himself up with the ropes in the 3rd round of the 2nd Pac-JMM fight, it wasn't even ruled a KD. And though JMM's glove was on the canvas, that can also be cause for ambiguity, like it was in the Judah vs PBF knockdown.
     
  3. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's all that matters. Glove on the canvas, unable to defend himself, and a flush left hand lands on his face a full second later. Deja vu? But this is of course not about Pacquiao or Abraham, one got away with it, the other got - rightfully - diqualified.

    No. This is about Kevin Iole's double standard of a very similar situation judged completely the opposite way, which in my book is the total failiure of the journalist's first rule: impartiality. Abraham did an awful job and paid for it. But Iole's foul is also very severe in his profession and should not be ignored.
     
  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Seriously BigBone, you need to give it a rest. The only biased one here is you. We all know what you're trying to do. First off, he never demanded that Abraham bes suspended. He simply said that he should be suspended.

    Second, the two fights were nothing alike. Technically, Marquez wasn't even on the canvas. He was being held up against the ropes. At that point, it's up to the ref to decide whether or not to call it a knockdown. You can hit a guy against the ropes, we all know you can't hit a guy who's knees are on the canvas. Also, the punch by Pac barely landed on Marquez. Dirrell was clearly down and got drilled right in the chin.

    Just face the facts, Abraham was down big, drilled his opponent while he was clearly down, and rightfully got himself DQ'd. Attacking other posters, and Kevin Iole, and trying to claim that Dirrell was actually knocked down before getting drilled instead of slipping like everyone with two eyes saw, is not going to change anything.
     
  5. ed7890

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    Nice job BigBone
     
  6. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dude, you don't have a clue. If I was biased, why would I say the DQ was just and Dirrell was seriously hurt? But even if I am biased despite my first action being giving Dirrell his props, I can be biased on a boxing forum. Iole can't be biased in his profession. That's about it.
     
  7. BigReg

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    You clearly have an agenda which is why you're wasting your time with these frivilous issues. How the hell is Iole biases? Pacquaio hit a guy on the shoulder when he was down in the first round of that fight. Clearly that punch did not affect the fight. At most, Pac should've had a point dedcuted. He probably should've just gotten a warning. In the Abraham/Dirrell fight, Dirrell was clearly down, Abraham looked at him and then unleashed a hard right hook on his jaw. The punch hurt Dirrell bad and left him unable to continue. That's a dangerous move by Abraham and could warrant a suspension. The only one without a clue is you, which is why you think that was a KD in the 11th.
     
  8. PH|LLA

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    what happens if the ref rules Abraham's punch as accidental, and Dirrell is deemed unfit to continue?
     
  9. bandido

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    No Kevin ain't biased if it's based on these two scenarios. He saw the Pac-JMM scenario differently like many others. He can't be accused of being biased for not seeing it your way.
     
  10. BigBone

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    I don't know if such a punch can be ruled accidental, I mean it ended the fight for good, it's a DQ whether he accidentally landed one too much or intended to cheat.
    First it was about the jab/slip before the incident and unrelated to it, 2nd I never said it was a KD, I said it could be ruled a KD depending on the ref since there was a punch landing at the time of the slip. Pac clearly hits Marquez while he's down, even if it's not that serious, if Iole comes down as hard vs. illegal blows, mentioning it would've been the minimum. He completely ignores one (less serious) case and would ban in another.
     
  11. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    God, please let Joe Cortez retire.
     
  12. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Joe cortez sucks
     
  13. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The slip occurred before any Abraham punch hit Dirrell. Then, when Dirrell was clearly down, Abraham winded up to throw the right...most likely out of frustration at his situation.
     
  14. charlievint

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    well put together post. And I agree on a certain level. I think "IF"....Andre was somehow able to get up and fight on, meaning he wasn't hurt or damaged to the point where the fight would be called off by DQ.....then maybe the fight would have just went on....Like it did in the JMM/PAC fight. Given the fact that Andre was completely out of it the fight HAD to be called off by DQ. JMM continued and was able to fight on. But the 6 month suspesnsion is laughable. Arthur ****ed up....I'm ready to move on. He was in the heat of the moment....he didn't have to throw the shot but he did. His "bad".. he lost his title...was outboxed and screwed himself. Hopefully he learns and we see him back to business. But Kevin is completely off with how Abraham should be suspended or fined....
     
  15. san rafael

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    No contest.