Joy boys vs boxing fans RE: DLH or Cotto

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  1. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Actually I'm a finance major.

    But the best way to keep the sport alive and relevant, is to have to best fighters fight the best fighters.

    Years of promoters selling you shitty fights has lead you to accept them as good for the sport, when in reality since this trend has started in about the 70s the sport has gone completely down the shitter. You're just too used to the way things are to even consider the way things should be.

    The only fight that makes any sense at the top of the welterweight division is Floyd vs Cotto, anything else is representative of why you can't read about boxing in the paper anymore, and why MMA who puts the best against the best more often than not is the fastest growing sport in the world.
     
  2. tays001

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    uh the opnly reason there was so much intrest in that fight is because PBF just came off a win over DLH. dam why do you fail to realize that .

    do you honestly think the fight would of sold so well in the USA had PBF not beaten DLH?

    common you being willfully nieve now!!!

    another pbf win over oscar puts his name in the press again and it will be mor recently which when he he and cotto get it on the fight will get more recogniton then it owuld right now. if you can't see that or can't see that as good for the sport then i give up:-(
     
  3. tays001

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    ah well having a name figure garnishes more ratings why do you think Basketball was so bigg when jordan was playing or when tyson was champ.

    why do you think companies have endorsment deals for those star players.? aging you fail to see that every sport has it's star

    and as far as UFC how come they still put Chuck liddle on PPV even when it's clear he's not the best . WHy because he sales your points are moot?
     
  4. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    well your a finace major great .at 23 i work for one of the biggest financial institutions in the USA and the world and i deal with high ende clients who have any where between 500k and 3 million with the bank but that is only 12% of there investable assets. my job is to provide them with service and products so that we can aquire the remainding 88% . so i have ensure that i provide then with a long term solution. oh and it just so happen i do have client that are in this sport on a promtional level and more name fighter level wich im not at liberty to discuss unfortunatley. in terms of finance. but since finance is your major you should be able to grasp the concept
     
  5. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chuck hasn't headlined a PPV since he lost his belt.

    Basketball was popular with Jordan at least partly because he was the best ever.

    In any sport, including basketball, the Playoffs get the better ratings than the regular season ratings, and the championships always get the best ratings. Know why? Because those games mean something because they are the most important because they are the best teams.

    This is way off topic.

    There is no reason for the champion no to fight the number one contender, it is a joke and has nothing to do with boxing.

    This goes for any champion, and if you defend any champion taking easy fights for no reason other than money you are not a fan of boxing, you are a fan of that fighters bank account. If you disagree with that, you just don't get it, and thats all I have to say.
     
  6. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So you sell insurance more or less? Maybe you got your series 7 and can sell some variable products as well, but spare me the bull****. Because thats the exact language I used when I was "working for one of the largest financial institutions in the world"

    What the **** does any of that have to do with Floyd not fighting who he should fight? Or Hatton not fighting who he should fight, or any other champ not fighting who he should fight?
     
  7. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    uh HELL no!!!:rofl :rofl :rofl

    nah i ensure clients get let say for instance the general rates thrown out from the fdic on an investment account are 4.7 well i ensure the client gets it for 9.3 or sometimes higher. to ensure that even another institution is not able to compete for business with us when it comes to higher end clients!!!:hey
     
  8. Imperial1

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    I have no problem with these 2 fighting again as long as I can watch it on HBO the following week after ..I will never pay for this rematch !
     
  9. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look, I'm really not impressed and don't care.

    If you're ok with shitty fights being made instead of great fights, you're a jerkoff and don't get what boxing is about.
     
  10. tays001

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    all in all even when jordan played for the wizards he got better rating then most teams which is why dlh fighting forbse got better ratings then JC vs kessler or lets talk PPV dlh vs YBC got better ratins then cotto vs mosely probally. i thought cotto vs mosley was even more meaning ful then pbf vs DLH but we know who gat the more buy it's just the wway the business is and we know its not changing anytime soon. unless you got a plan other then boycotting the fight cuz we no the casual fan won't listen. but if you have solution other then the normal bitching and whinnig im all ears . if not then just face the facts. but it was quite a good chat i had with you and good luck on youtr masters
     
  11. tays001

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    see no this is the right attitude. i how ever will pay becuse i like watching them as it happens i hate finding out later who won . and the replay just doen't give me that feeling you know
     
  12. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So that means we should defend it?

    I realized Mike Tyson was right when he said he could sell out MSG masturbating, but I didn't realize there would be idiots like you defending it as good for the sport.
     
  13. tays001

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    ok you stated i sold insurence i just simply told what i did not trying to impress you but obiviously it left an impression if you aknowledged it:yep

    any how im not saying i rather see this then the cotto fight but that i understand the aspect on a business side . does that make me lees of a fan then your or just a more understanding fan that isn't :crybaby :cry:
     
  14. tays001

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    im not defending it im simply using rational in approaching the subject is see both side and agree.:good
     
  15. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It left an impression as somebody insecure trying to overstate what they do, by saying you probably sold insurance I was just somewhat kidding, you probably sell "financial products and services." If you really are somewhere up on the hierarchy, good for you, but its not really relevant. If you really want to get it off your chest and brag, feel free. Let it all out.

    I'm not saying I don't understand why things are so ****ed, I'm saying I can't believe people are actually defending it compared to Floyd vs Cotto.

    If you think Floyd should fight Cotto rather than DLH, then you more or less agree with my point. My point is that alot of joyboys are actually saying that DLH is the better fight, and they are basing this on the fact that Floyd will make more money. People like that are not boxing fans, they are Joy boys.

    If discussing the way boxing should be is crying, then why are you on a message board? Can you not see the point that Floyd should fight Cotto? That Hatton should fight Witter? All other things aside, can you not see these are the only fights that make sense from a competition stand point?