Juan "Baby Bull" Diaz Vs Joan Guzman, who wins?

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  1. Cerberus

    Cerberus Kérberos, Hound of Hades Full Member

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    Diaz's effectiveness lies in his lightning-quick hands and blazing combos. But Guzman is the one guy who actually has faster hands than Juan...

    Guzman is all wrong for Juan Diaz. I've stated this before. Juan Diaz has never faced a slick boxer-type. Julio Diaz was supposed to be that guy, but that stubborn dude refused to stick to the gameplan and got outbrawled by Juan <-- expected....

    Juan can be outboxed.. he has a small reach and he needs to plant his feet before he punches. Sure he wins a lot of fights on his punch output alone, but that's against fighters who stand right in front of him. A guy who can move like Guzman will give him fits, because he will never be able to plant his feet to get leverage behind his shots. Juan won't be able to land those notorious combinations on Guzman.. he'll have his moments, but Guzman would win this by clear decision.
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    :nod :happy
     
  3. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    went with guzman i hink he outboxes diaz to a SD
     
  4. bigeddie27

    bigeddie27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Guzman wins by decision, heres why

    Guzman strengths:
    -speed - he is faster than juan and will beat him to the punch. juan loves to throw that right hook, guzman will trade rights with him and stop him in his tracks.
    -defense - all those punches arent going to do **** to guzman if he is dodging, blocking, or parrying them all. Juan is gonna go inside, this is guzman's game all day and night long.
    -footwork - the other diaz was giving juan all kinds of problems when he was on his feet, his stamina let him down. guzman has extrodinary stamina and can go on his feet all night long. Baby bull is not good with movers, guzman is amongst the best of them.

    guzman weaknesses:
    -hand problems - if he injures his hand and stops throwing with it, hes gonna have problems.
    -power - does he have enough power to discourage juan, or will juan walk him down? I think he has enough power, speed, and timing to hurt baby bull

    Baby Bull strenghts:
    -power - he hits harder than guzman and almost as fast. Can he throw enough shots to throw guzman off his gameplan?
    -size - he will have a size advantage, but not by much. Guzman looked pretty big his last fight, came in at 148 will prolly come the same if not bigger
    -jab - his jab is faster and stronger than guzman, but he needs to counterpunch off of it evey time guzman throws a jab.

    baby Bull weaknesses:
    -defense - this is going to let him down big time. Every one of his oppenents found baby bull, so will guzman. Expect guzman to counter the **** out of him too. I see guzman trading a lot of left and right hooks with the baby bull and hitting him first.

    overall their stamina is the same. Guzman is the more refined fighter, better boxing skills and defense. guzman will frusterate the hell out of baby bull, and win a decisive victory. Baby bull loves to pressure, but he is pressure fighting the wrong guy. Guzman just has too much defense and slickness in there.
     
  5. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Please don't make this fight I don't want to watch the Baby Bull gas from chasing Guzman around ..
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    He definitely wouldn't gas, but he might be stopped on cuts. :good
     
  7. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    :lol:

    Guzman couldn't cut Juan if his gloves had blades on them he has no power :lol:
     
  8. Cerberus

    Cerberus Kérberos, Hound of Hades Full Member

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    Can you really say definitively that Juan Diaz has more power than Guzman? I can't...
     
  9. IntentionalButt

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    You shouldn't. :yep

    Raw power's a wash in terms of natural strength, and Guzman throws straighter and crisper.
     
  10. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    I am going to say yes !
     
  11. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    END of the fight GUZAM is ko'D. We all know soto hits harder than DIAZ. Just imagine if guzaman gets hit. And at the same time guzman uses his power SLAP er I mean power punch? End result. EARLY KO for Guzman!
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    what? did you do a line of coke before hitting "reply"? :huh
     
  13. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    No whats best for fight fans is to put the Baby Bull in with Pacquio ..Who wants to see a 12 rd dance becuase thats exactly what u get with Yawn ..
     
  14. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    I agree Yawn Guzman needs to be in their with a good boxe not a brawler ..I would prefer JMM /Guzman that might play out better .
     
  15. IntentionalButt

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    Guzman-Pacquiao is a better fight than either one with Diaz.