juan diaz vs edwin valero

Baby Bull by UD

 

Diaz is Taylor made for Valero ... good fight but Valero's streak will continue.

 

I think that Bob Arum has another PPV star in the making ...

 

Based on last night, I'd take Diaz.
This is defo the step up Valero would need tho.
(Anything over that Championship handing he had last night)

 

Diaz is a head first fighter .... he's just going to be walking in ... and its pretty evident of Valero that all he needs is one opening and he will capitalize off of that ...

Valero is too fast and strong for the Baby Bull ... he will not back up ... he will not give ...

 

Don't know that on Valero's part against top comp, Diaz has already shown himself against his level of fighter's Win or lose.

Would be a great match to see Edwin's heart, he would need it against BB.

 

Valero has true one punch power !!

 

The Babybull would take this *****....

 

i picked Valero by UD, but his stamina against world class opponents is relatively untested.

i'm picking against Diaz because he lost his last 2 fights. But remember, his losses were against worthy opponents.

This would be a worthy fight none the less but I think Valero's managers wouldn't put him in against Diaz. Diaz is young and still a dangerous opponent.

 

Juan himself is fairly limited in what he can do. His style plays right into Valero's strengths, and he's not particularly good at ad******g when his gameplan isn't working. A guy with good lateral movement who can fight off the back foot, or a guy with powerful and straight punches and a decent chin, would be the ideal to beat Valero relatively easily. Diaz can't fight moving backwards, and he doesn't have the power to take advantage of Valero's defensive holes.

I'll say Valero by mid-to-late rounds TKO. Valero's stamina would be the huge wild card here. If he doesn't have it, then I could still see Baby Bull wearing him down late.

Lol. Now you can't even say just in without a space, even if it's in the middle of a word. What I mean is Diaz doesn't adjust to different styles well.

 

This is an accurate analysis except I think the stoppage will come early to mid rounds. Guys like Diaz are tailor made for Valero. Unless Diaz reverts to a boxing/counter-punching style he'll be walking face first into heavy artillery. Neither Juan Diaz's stamina nor power are near elite levels and his chin is not granite either. Coming in face first and square throwing flurries against a proven knockout artist with power in both hands is a guaranteed receipe for diaster.

Valero will move and counter-punch Diaz easily until he lands flush and takes him out. Power is the ultimate equalizer so unless you have Guzman type defense & mobility chances are Valero will hit you and more than once.

Valero is similar to Darchinyan in many ways with his awkwardness but is even more powerful punch per punch. He can also level you with a right hook as easily as a straight left or a bodyshot whereas Vic depends mainly on his left for effect. He just needs to keep his hands up and not leave his chin in the air or he could end up like Darchinyan/Donaire.

 

Oh and Valero isn't? Don't tell me that even you have been persuaded that Valero has skills based on some sparring sessions?

And "Potential" and Actual Skills are not the same. He may have potential, but his current skills are nothing to get all excited about. Him and Katsidis have ALOT in common. They both have bad defense, all they do is go forward and bang, they don't have any semblance of footwork, no head movement. Hell atleast Katz has some technique in his punches, whereas Valero doesn't. He swings his punches too damn wide.

Diaz wins this rather easily IMO. Valero might have some moments, but that's few and far between.

 

Now this is what i call a proper step up for someone like Valero... He doesn't need no more Mosquera, Pitalua, and the " katsidis " of the world.. He's ready for Juan Diaz..

This is a proper fight for Valero...

 

The Campbell fight itself was pretty grueling but the Marquez fight really took something out of Diaz imo.. With that being said, I feel that Valero would shatter Diaz' jaw forever and ruin him... Diaz would get punished into submission..

 

You must not have seen the Diaz/Katsidis fight. What your saying here is the EXACT same thing me and many others have said leading up to the Katsidis fight. We thought that Diaz was limited, who only goes forward and doesn't have enough power to trouble Katz. We thought that style would play right into Katsidis' style. That at many points in the fight, Katsidis would catch him with powerful bombs and knock Diaz out.

Yet what happened? Did Diaz show his limitations in that fight? Did he only went forward? No he didn't. Juan showed us a side we didn't see before in him. He actualy BOXED. He was smart enough to know that Katsidis was a big puncher and trading with him would be extremely dangerous. So he went the other route. He boxed Mikey's ears off. He didn't just went forward, he also went side to side, he picked his shots(instead of going all out like he usually does), he was in constant movement inside that ring not allowing Katsidis to set up his shots. AND most importantly, his Jab was VERY good that night. He also has pretty underrated defense as well.

That's the Diaz that I'm talking about. That's the Diaz who will beat Valero rather easily. Hell, forget the lateral movement, forget the defense, forget the smart punch selection, forget the great workrate. How the hell is Valero gonna get past that Jab of Diaz which not only gave ALOT of trouble to Katsidis, but also to JMM as well?

People should wake up and realize that Diaz is not only a slugger, he can also box. I'm dumbfounded whenever I see people say he can't adjust based on the JMM fight. I mean seriously, look at Diaz's opponent that time and tell me if most boxers can adjust to a master-boxer like Marquez.