Juan Domingo Roldan vs John Mugabi

Roldan would overpower Mugabi for mine. Roldan more proven and very robust early.

 

Mugabi. 1 or 2 rounds. He has like 3x the handspeed and here's a guy coming into him with his hands down and wide open. Mugabi feasted on guys like that. You want Mugabi to use those legs and having to hunt a guy down. Not be standing ring center with those guns of his loaded.

I wanted a round robin of the middleweight sluggers back then---Mugabi/Roldan/Barkley and maybe throw in Hearns. Have
Jackson move up. Would have been great for us boxing fans. But we really seldom get the say 3 or 4 years of highly competitive matchups, like this do we?

 

Prime for prime I'll take The Beast @154

 

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Yep ,i reckon Roldan gets the win .Though John s the bigger puncher ,Roldan the more robust .Juan by late round ko after shrugging off the Beasts big shots .

 

Roldan by stoppage.

Mugabi is absurdly overrated.

Yet I always see him in matchups with guys like Jackson, Benn, Briscoe.

All those guys would have killed Mugabi.

Somebody put Mugabi in a matchup he would win... like against James Kirkland.

 

I agree with almost all of this! I think Mugabi is evenly matched with Jackson, but that they both get overrated and paired with bigger stronger better fighters for some reason. Jackson Mugabi would be a tough evenly matched fight IMO

 

There's nothing even about a Jackson-Mugabi matchup, Philly.

Julian was a class above Mugabi.

 

Disagree completely this time lol

 

Wellll? uh, I don't think Jackson would have seen the 11th round against Marvin Hagler like Mugabi did.

 

That's the problem. Mugabi's entire career is based off a LOSS. A one sided loss, I might add.

Mugabi landed some big shots, but Hagler gave him a frightful beating.

If I'm being honest, as good as Hagler's chin was, it still wouldn't have been in his best interest to get hit that cleanly, and that often by Jackson.

Mugabi has no wins of note besides Frank the Animal.

Jackson beat much better fighters, and did so far more impressively. He was plain and simple better than Mugabi.

 

Bingo.

 

You picked a tough fight here. Both guys strong and both could punch. Mugabi probably a harder puncher, but Roldan more awkward and wild. I would go with Roldan. He fought some decent guys and some legends. Frank Fletcher. Marvin Hagler, James Kinchen, Thomas Hearns, Michael Nunn. And he was not stopped early by any of them like Mugabi with Norris or with the thumb of Duane Thomas.

I almost discount the Hagler fight with Mugabi a little because Marvin was inactive for 11 months and got a nose injury in training, so I assume he might not have sparred much either. Let's put it this way, and I don't want to get too much into this because it is just theory and just what could be possible. The rumor was Hagler broke the nose and had back issues-both. The back issues he would need rest for 4 weeks or more, and the nose usually 6 weeks to heal. These two things together made resuming training more difficult with a guy who had 65 fights in his career.

So if this nose injury happened in late October/early Nov. Dec. 1985 is when he could resume by the timeline. Now that is Xmas time, so I doubt Marvin did much working out and probably ate a little and started after the New Year. So let's say he started to train in January 1986 which is probably, and maybe didn't spar much. Meaning he was inactive from fighting and from sparring probably. This is a guess, but a broken nose and hurt back is going to make someone gunshy since I remember reading the nose injury was due to a headbutt in sparring. So I think he probably avoided some contact-even Hagler who lost a little motivation after Hearns. I think. And when he fought Mugabi his punches were looping and not straight. Actually they looped with Ray Leonard also, which is probably why Ray wanted to fight him. Ray saw it. Now this is not based on fact, but timing. The rumor was Marvin had issues with his back. Never really talked about. He did not fight well against Mugabi and his punches were looping he was not sharp. Ray knew exactly what he was watching.


My point is that Roldan fought better guys.

 

And how about Tony Ayala Jr. ?
Where would you rate him against Mugabi ?

 

I think you're really trying to explain why Mugabi did a lot better than Hearns did against Hagler.