Juan M. Marquez: "Juarez First, Pacquiao Next!"

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  1. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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  2. theHawtness

    theHawtness Active Member Full Member

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    so true. i don't believe in JMM anymore.
     
  3. theHawtness

    theHawtness Active Member Full Member

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    check! :good
     
  4. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    do you deny that he was seriously hurt in the larrios fight. pac got a little glassy eyed on that one
     
  5. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    look at his eyes bro. he was definitely hurt unlike chimba's claims. that's pac was never hurt after sanshez's low blows. the whole country held their breath in that instance. i also never claimed that he wasn't able to recover you dumb ****. i also didn't say that pac didn't beat up larrios to a bloody pulp. all i was saying was that for that moment, pac was hurt bad by larrios. the whole philippines held their breath on that on, i bet.
     
  6. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Would be interesting. But we would need punch stat numbers too. If it was a close round stats wise, and 2 judges gave it to JMM and one to Pac, then thats just subjectivity. If it was a blowout statistically....well then we have a new discussion.
     
  7. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so explain to me again why pac is fighting mab instead of guzman or soto? if you call what jmm did as ducking, what pac did to soto and guzman is also ducking. but you won't accept the fact that pac ducked could you? mab has lost to pac by blowout and is coming off a loss to jmm. let's all just accept that he is shot now.

    so pac didn't take a guzman or soto fight, didn't even take a valero fight in macau and took jorge solis, who was definitely a lesser fighter and is again taking the lesser fighter in mab if compared to guzman and soto who are both in their primes. so in your terms pac ducked guzman and soto too.
     
  8. theunderdog

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    dude, you're making a total fool of yourself. your boy mayol hurt solis in their fight but solis recovered in time and ko'd mayol. why the hell are you saying that hurt fighters can't recover? hussein hurt pac in their fight and pac recovered to beat hussein. chico freaking coralles was hurt many times against jlc but still recovered and managed to tko him. need i say more?
     
  9. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    exactly, so ****ing blame the handlers of jmm and not the fighter himself. the thing is, with you people, when pac takes on a weaker fighter in mab, yall think it just being smart and doing good business. but when it's jmm's turn to do the same, it's ducking, you have ****ing double standards.
     
  10. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    chico wasn't hurt? are you blind or maybe just stupid
     
  11. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    answer my other question. why do you call it ducking when it comes to jmm and a "good business decision" when it comes to pac when they basically did the same thing?
     
  12. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so pac's fighting mab because it is a bigger draw than a guzman or soto fight? we are not talking about draw here. were talking about quality of fighters. here, pac will fight mab in october. mab was already beaten by pac before and was coming of a loss to jmm. jmm is taking on juarez who lost twice to mab but is coming off two wins, albeit against lesser competition. mab is not that far a competition from juarez actually, so don't make it seem that pac is taking for stiffer competition than jmm because he clearly is not.

    and yes, fighting guzman will be a bad business decision because he is in training for a puncher not a technician. it will be completely stupid for jmm to shift his training. imagine prepapring to fight against valero and then suddenly he backs out and you have to fight zahir raheem. that would be really hard because it takes weeks and weeks of preparation to map out a good battle plan and if you have to pick another opponent, it is common sense that you pick a fighter that has similar style with the one you were preparing for.

    as other people said before, it will be tough to train for guzman with a full training schedule and it is much tougher to take on guzman with half a training schedule.

    you're also making it seem that "business decisions" are all about draws. they're not! doing good business right now for jmm is preparing for a big money match against pac. and taking guzman this late will be stupid as i have said previously.
     
  13. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    JMM has done it twice already.. that is why. And besides the obvious money issue, MAB demanded to GBP to give him the PAC fight or else he will retire which IMO one the biggest reasons why GBP opted to let MAB fight PAC instead of JMM.
     
  14. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    :good
     
  15. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    and any grade schooler should also think that pac ducked guzman AND soto and took on the low risk mab. funny that you should bring up grade schoolers because you think like one. what part of "jmm didn't pick guzman because he is preparing for a puncher and not a tactician" did you not understand? pac's **** is shoved so deep in your throat that you can't think straight