Juan M. Marquez: "Juarez First, Pacquiao Next!"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by hellblazer, Aug 8, 2007.


  1. reed_man02

    reed_man02 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yea, because jmm decides who he fight. it has absoulutely nothing to do with his manager picking who his fights and agreeing on the conditions.

    the first fight didnt prove that they are even, it prove that jmm has the style to embarrass manny like the limited fighter he is. :deal
     
  2. El Bombasto

    El Bombasto Ask yo momma Full Member

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    i hope he's not looking past rocky
     
  3. Chert

    Chert Ringside Potato Full Member

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    yep. but pac sure gets a lot of beautiful, young sexy actresses in Manila. that's what fame and money get you.
     
  4. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so he's committing adultery now? shame. i thought billiards and gambling were his only addictions. now he's womanizing? damn
     
  5. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Yeah right has the style to embarrass Pac . . . that's why he refused the $750 K and fought in Indonesia for $35 K. :yep Is that the fact that you're holding on?

    :think Hmmm . . . you're a genius Bruh. Carry on with your stupidity. :D :good
     
  6. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Let me ask you guys.....you dont think after the first JMM-Pac fight that both fighters deserved more than 100,000 more than what they got paid for their first fight?????

    I would think that after the first Gatti-Ward fight, both those guys got paid significantly more in their ensuing fights.....and the same for Castillo-Corrales.

    Essentially JMM did the same that Felix Trinidad and Shane Mosely did after beating Oscar Delahoya.....both of them turned down a petty raise in the purse for a rematch.....yet JMM gets heavily criticized for doing exactly what Trinidad and Mosely did....expecting and demanding a significant pay increase after the performance he turned in vs Manny Pac.
     
  7. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Trinidad and Mosely is a far different case from JMM's case. Trinidad and Mosley beat DLH, in JMM's case it is a draw. And besides $750 K is too far from 35 K. Bro. I don't see how it could be justified. If he turned down the $750 K and fought for somehting a little less like $500 K or let's just say half . . . $375 K . . . maybe it's still acceptable. The 750 K is already way up in the amount which he received in the first fight.

    And besides how can you also justify JMM turning down $1.4 Mil to fight Morales? Does he think he is bigger than Morales at that point? :think
     
  8. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Psycho, do you actually think that JMM was presented with an offer that said, take Pac for 750k, or John for 35k, and he chose John????
    :rofl :rofl :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    LOL at the way people in this forum depict JMM refusing the fight with Pac and instead fighting John for 35k.:lol: :nut

    If anybody had done their homework on what transpired, the JMM team wanted the Pac rematch but were holding out for more than a 100k raise from the 650k they got for their first fight with Pac.

    While the JMM were holding out and trying to negotiate for more, JMM's own promoter blind sided them and announced that he had reached and agreement for Morales to fight Manny Pac.

    After Bob Arum gave the Pac fight to Morales, the JMM team were left between a rock and a hard place and nowhere to turn but to take on another fighter.
    He then fought John because it was for a title shot.
    The JMM-John fight actually went up for purse bids and none of the major promoters wanted to promote that fight in Indonesia.

    JMM was lowballed into being forced to accept 35k, and he accepted because he was one fight away from ending his contract with Bob Arum who never treated JMM with the respect he deserved.

    Essentially JMM fought John to gain the 126 lbs title and end his commitment with Bob Arum.

    .....but I reiterate again, it was never a choice between accepting the Pac fight or the John fight.....the John fight came about after Arum backstabbed negotiations between Pac and JMM and brought Morales into the picture.
     
  9. DobyZhee

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    divac, the point is JMM tried to be shrewd to get the most money out of something and it backfired. Instead Eric Morales took the spot, the glory and is a LOT richer than JMM. Anyways, I don't feel a least bit sorry for JMM and his choice of backstabbing promoters. Arum stabs him in the back and get this, Oscar assrapes JMM by giving the Pacquiao rematch to the guy JMM thoroughly beat (minus the knockdown). I'm surprised JMM hasn't committed suicide yet after all this.

    Anyways, for all the JMM nuthuggers...if he loses to Pac in the future you guys have your 2 aces in the hole that "JMM was too old" and "If he would have immediately fought Pac, he definitely would have won" cards. If he wins in the rematch, well he should get all the credit in the world.

    Anyways, Am I the only one that thinks a fight with Juarez as a supposed 'tuneup' for Pac is a very smart move for JMM? He fights a lefty with a decent hook and in the process, it looks good on his resume compared to the Salidos and Turdsaks of the world. Only problem is that he's been feasting on other people's leftovers. But hey, Juarez is a game opponent who has already been totally exposed. This fight is definite UNDERCARD Material IMO.
     
  10. knockout

    knockout Make my day Full Member

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    Well i hope so cuz most fans have been waiting for this fight for years now that Top rank and golden boy settle there despute we just might see it next year.