Juan Ma looked sloppy tonight

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by 5Burowz, Jun 27, 2009.


  1. futonrevolution

    futonrevolution Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, I had a pretty good seat there last night & JuanMa looked anything but sloppy. We had absolutely no idea how Lontchi was taking those shots... he took a flush audible shot right on the damn liver that lifted him up off the canvas... and, though he sure looked hurt, just got on his bicycle for a few seconds to recover! Earlier on that night, Korobov did a single body shot less on-target & solid than that & his boy was down for 4 minutes before he could get onto a stool.

    A lot of what would have looked like sloppiness on camera was JuanMa having to adjust to the different headbutt tactics Lontchi used (he had one hell of a bag of tricks for somebody I'd never heard of that couldn't look up during the press conferences!): he'd do a Holyfield, jump back against the ropes, use the momentum to blast his head at ramming speed towards belly level, then finish off with a body shoeshine before holding - truly bizarre stuff.

    JuanMa's skills were tight. Footwork was perfect, shoulders rolled, chin *always* in the right place but still managed to be flexible enough to turn flush head shots into grazing cheek shots. Lontchi turned out to be a really awkward headbutting spoiler and hurt Lopez's left hand with one of those headbutts.
    Dunno where you're getting this head-hunting stuff from. The mid-to-late round head shots were mostly to ward off butts & for some fantastic counters (in the 9th, he had Lontchi's right timed so well, that he countered him before Lontchi's elbow pulled up). After they settled in, it was a contest of body assaults... that JuanMa won clearly.
     
  2. Pound4poundx

    Pound4poundx Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He has the perfect combination of speed and power. Are you saying that Ponce de Leon and Penalosa weren't live opponents?
     
  3. Pound4poundx

    Pound4poundx Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agreed.
     
  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Lontchi was underrated going into this fight. That's why people think it was a poor performance.

    the over/under was set at 5 rounds and the odds on the over were 5/4 which is rediculous for anyone who knows Lontchi. Money in the bank
     
  5. 5Burowz

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    I appreciate your post; especially since you were ringside. But, I know what I saw, and he looked sloppy. There was no camera trickery involved. And, I fully admit that Lontchi was awkward, but I saw Juan doing things on his own accord that were sloppy. He simply didn't look good Sat. night compared to what I've seen from him in the past. I truly believe he was frustrated and was taken out of his gameplan by Lontchi. Lontchi even started landing some on Juan as the fight progressed.
     
  6. Chiko_Tech

    Chiko_Tech Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly those kind of guys are named casual fans, they are blind only for the last fight. He just fought a fighter that was vryackward with a very dificult style to ko or look great too, check the media that know about boxing, and they know that Lontchi style is a problem for everyone.
     
  7. Chiko_Tech

    Chiko_Tech Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    LOL, what a garbage comment of course someone will beat him , just like all of the avobe metioned are beaten or will be beaten.
     
  8. HyperBone

    HyperBone Silverback Gorilla Full Member

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    Juanma still looked pretty good against Lontchi. Not his best performance but still very good. Ive watched the fight and i dont think he had problems with stamina. Lontchi was just an awkward dirty fighter. We cant discount Juanmas chances at the higher weights just cause of that 1 fight. he was probably impatient during the later rounds but it is probably because of what lontchi has been doing to him.
     
  9. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Juanma learned a couple of lessons against Lontchi. He was definitely surprised. First mistake Juanma made was to promise a KO before the 10rnds.
     
  10. PH|LLA

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    this fight was just an essential part of the learning curve for JuanMa. Another smart pick by Top Rank
     
  11. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    he didn't have a gameplan in that fight..he still win via KO and that is enough, he doesnt need to impress, the fab 4 of 122 are way above the rest