Juan Manuel Marquez is better the Pacquiao P4P* but Paquaio is better then Juan H2H*

yea but its Pac on both cases. h2h Pac is slightly ahead. and Yes knockdowns count because its how you score fights. P4p I personally rank Pac alot higher than JMM. In the past 5 years the only person Pac has struggled with is Marquez while we have seen alot of great fights from Marquez they were against guys he was supposed to get past much easier.
Still 1 and 2 p4p for me but Pac is just way ahead