Juan Manuel Marquez is underrated, he should be rated as one of the ATG

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  1. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You don't see his name mentioned that much on ATG lists and he was kind of outshone by bigger stars in Pacquiao and Mayweather in his era. Imagine if he was a little younger, he probably would have 4-0ed Pacquiao. Marquez was 40 when he knocked Pacquiao out cold. Mayweather at 40 was looking stupid and dropping rounds to a novice in McGregor and Pacquiao was losing to Jeff Horn!

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  2. Conteh'sLeft

    Conteh'sLeft Active Member Full Member

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    JMM is an atg in my eyes and a very skilled operator whose backfoot counterpunching in combinations made for butt clenchingly good fights.

    He had a glaring flaw though ,which was that he couldn't lead too well , that did expose him to the pure boxers and fighters who weren't aggressive .

    His fight with a post prime Barrera was close due to this, JMM wasn't planning on leading and Barrera had abandoned his early career pressure game in favor of boxing on the backfoot, Barrera took some of the early rounds clean but then JMM adjusted and won the fight down the stretch.
     
  3. Mighty

    Mighty The Gypsy King banned Full Member

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    He is barely ATG imo. His counter punching is ATG but as a complete fighter he is barely touching that level. Floyd beat him too easy.

    Canelo, Chavez and Sanchez are better fighters and stronger ATGs.
     
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  4. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Any respect I had for the man went down the toilet when he came into his last fight doped to the eyeballs and covered in acne.

    He's a skilled fighter, but a dirty cheat.
     
  5. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I always thought he was a little overrated. Relied on his fights with Pacman to build his resume, but he lacks the names other ATG fighters have. prime name..
     
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  6. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Yes. Very good fighter. If fans are calling fighters with less than 20 fights an ATG, Marquez can be call one as well.
     
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  7. Young Terror

    Young Terror ★ Griselda ★ Full Member

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    Exactly... if that first Pac fight happens to be stopped in the first round what would be his legacy?

    His fights with Pac are his legacy... i loved see him throwing those nasty combos but like someone said those nasty combos were great against aggressive fighters, when faced with boxers who forced him to lead he struggled... against Floyd he didnt just lose he looked like a complete novice out there... great fighter who gave us some great fights but i think hes overrated.. hell some fools even rank him ahead of Pac FFS..
     
  8. Themessiah

    Themessiah El Jefe Full Member

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    He schooled prime Pacquaio 4 times
     
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  9. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    It's impossible not to like márquez in the ring, he's amazing.

    Btw, his fight vs el torito díaz is one of the best ever fought.
     
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  10. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ATG chin and recovery as well as the will to win.

    Only let down by massive amount of urine drinking and roids.
     
  11. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    As opposed to his tattooed opponent in his last fight who is apparently terrified of needles and went up the weights like a hot knife through butter and was knocking around me twice his size like ragdolls.
     
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  12. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    An awesome fighter, one of my favorite to watch.
     
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  13. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    WTF.

    JMM is a certified ATG and I don't think this was ever in question.

    :dunno
     
  14. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Bruh, please stop spreading misinformation. Pac never said he was afraid of needless. Never ever. Not once. And he never had a problem with random drug testing, either.

    And he has dropped/hurt every single opponent in all of his VADA tested fights. Yes, those same big men.
     
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  15. Young Terror

    Young Terror ★ Griselda ★ Full Member

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    His last opponent was Mike Alvarado...a guy who roidquez knocked down to the other side of the ring with one punch...