Juan Manuel Marquez Rejects Joan Guzman, OKs Rocky Juarez As Sept. 15 Foe!

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  1. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

    Most feared? No. Worst talent to name recognition ratio? Might be in the top 10. People don't fight him because he brings little to nothing to the table. He doesn't have a name, he's not exciting, he doesn't even come from a country that can earn the fight extra revenue, and when he's in the fight over 122, it's pretty much guaranteed to go the distance. Someday Guzman will face a puncher with skills, and he'll be exposed for having very little heart.

    Still, Guzman would have been a better fight than Juarez. Hell, John or Valero also would have been better, not that Valero would have been licensed. At least if he fought John, he could have avenged the loss. I don't think JMM was robbed, but John wouldn't stand a chance with American judges, who like harder punching in favor of crisp, accurate punching.
     
  2. reed_man02

    reed_man02 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    where were you ****** when pac was ducking jmm, valero, soto, and guzman to fight solis, and larios? ****ing *****.:yep
     
  3. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thank you!

    Guzman is the type of opponent you take on if there is a significant financial reward in return.

    Use your heads people, if you're managing JMM, what would you do???

    I certainly would'nt match JMM (who is up there in age now with Guzman)
    If I'm managing JMM, I'm looking to get him in safely into a fight with Manny Pacquiao. Thats the big money fight.

    As a manager, if I'm too pick an opponent for JMM between Guzman and Rocky Juarez, and the money purse is the same, then its a no brainer.
    Taking on Rocky Juarez is a sound business move JMM's teams part.

    Unless somebody can tell me that JMM is taking a significant amount less to fight Juarez instead of Guzman, then you guys dont have a leg to stand on to criticize him.





    Once again kids, the goal is to get your fighter to a fight with Manny Pac.....
    .....to do that, you try and match your fighter in the meantime with a fighter that will give you the most money and at the same time pose the least risk.

    Unless Guzman is JMM's mandatory, he should'nt be criticised for sidestepping a fighter that is high risk/low reward!
     
  4. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    Im not buying this then. I would have payed for the Barrios fight. Not for Juarez. Should be an easy victory for JMM. I can at least thank GBP for saving me 50 dollars.

    And this fight doesnt help JMM's legacy at all. He could have built on the MAB win but like always, he is pissing away his career.
     
  5. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    pac ducked all these fighters? you serious? jmm-pac 2 didn't happen because of the purse. and note that jmm took a fight in indonesia for 25grand. i didn't say jmm ducked pac either. i just say it didn't materialize.

    valero was a long shot from the start. fighting in macau is not the same as fighting in the US, this was also high risk very low reward for pac. soto and guzman didn't happen because the mab fight came along.

    if you say that jmm is not ducking guzman and is just doing what is good for him, then you also can't say that pac ducked all the fighters you said he ducked.

    anyway, i agree that the poster whom you replied to was totally ignorant but your reply to his ignorant post is not so smart either.

    i think juarez will be more of a threat than barrios. and poor humberto soto will be left out in the cold again if jmm picked guzman. it's all good. them pacfans want to see a jmm-guzman match to eliminate one of the fighters who can pose a threat to pac. i like soto but after bobbypac staggered him, i have no doubt that bigbrotherpac will knock him out.
    and pacfans hate jmm because he got a draw with pac.that's why they're calling it a duck. because if you look at it, what pac did and what jmm did to guzman were basically the same thing
     
  6. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who here thinks Juarez is a tougher fighter to beat than Barrios?

    I certainly do.

    In Barrios, you had a strong but painfully slow fighter who stalks like he's walking on mud. Made to order for a figher of JMM's caliber.

    .....at the very least, Juarez throws short compact punches on the inside....Barrios does'nt even do that, all his punches come wide!
    Marquez would have made him look like a complete novice.


    Juarez has only lost to the best......he was actually robbed in the first MAB fight, then could'nt solve MAB when MAB refused to fight him and got on his bicycle.
    I guarantee you JMM will not run a trackmeet to beat Rocky Juarez, which should at the very least make it interesting and exciting.

    Juarez' only other loss was a close decision to Humberto Soto.

    .....so I dont see where anybody can come to the conclusion that Rocky is'nt a formidable opponent for Marquez to take on.
     
  7. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i do too as i have said in my post before this. people should start to look at it as jmm upgrading his opponent. i mean, he could have easily chose paper chump mzonke fana for a unification. the glass is half full, not half empty
     
  8. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i think they're ruling out juarez because he lost to MAB 2x and JMM beat MAB, while guzman has yet to join these round robins.
     
  9. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    MAB easily outboxed Juarez. And JMM is a much better boxer. So I can only see this fight going one way. While Barrios on the other, is a much better puncher (both hands not just a left hook), better inside fighter, more experienced, and the more mentally tough fighter. Barrios will not get discouraged by JMM after 3 rounds. While I see Juarez giving up after 3 rounds with JMM if he cannot get anything done.
     
  10. reed_man02

    reed_man02 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    dont get me wrong, i agree with you and divac. i was just pointed that out to that idiot dumbgo because he loves to hate on mexican fighters any chance he gets. i basically agree with everything you said, even what you said about my reply.:good
     
  11. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I find domngo to be a good guy at heart.....the pour soul is blinded by the fact that he's Filipino with blinders on that can only see Pacquiao!
    :lol: :lol: :lol: God bless the Filipino's, they should enjoy Pac while he's on top.
    Hopefully though, guys like domngo who are soley Pac loyalist will take a liking to the sport by hanging around forums like these, and learn a thing or two about boxing in the process!


    Domngo my pal, how are you???:hi:
     
  12. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    Although I am saddened that Guzman didn't make the cut, Juarez, as beatable as he looks, is still a very intriguing match-up.


    He is flat-footed and a bit on the slow side, yet he has enough power to keep things interesting.

    If JMM engages in a firefight like he did MAB, Juarez has a shot. Being a fan and selfish, I just hope he does.
     
  13. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    JMM had 2 years to pursue the Pac fight but never took it
    and Juarez being a more formidable opponent then Barrios is ****, Barrios is a much bigger man and has accomplished more than Juarez.

    The fight is garbage and with Guerro/Juarez off so is the card.

    Anyone who buys this PPV is a damn crack head.
     
  14. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    it's all good. at least we agreed.:good i don't think domngo hates mexicans. he just loves pac very much. he doesn't like jmm because of the draw, he loves morales because he raised pac's hand after pac defeated him and made a beer commercial with manny, he doesn't like mab much because he had an excuse for losing and didn't admit that pac had superhuman speed, power and stamina:lol:
     
  15. Bangis

    Bangis Member Full Member

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    this is sad news.... i was hoping the winner of PAC - MAB 2 will get the winner of JMM - Guzman!