Juan Manuel Marquez should contune his careeer at 140/147.

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  1. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Juan Manuel Marquez is to contune his boxing career he should do so as a light welterweight and/or a welterweight.

    It becomes more difcult as you get older to efectively lose weight. Marquez is 38 and weighed 138 and 142 during his last two fights.

    We have sen the effects in going down in weight most recently in James Toney losing a lopsided decision to Denis Lebedev. Roy Jones Jr. was never the same fighter after drooping nearly 20 lbs. to once again fight as a light heavyweight. Oscar De La Hoya's drop from 154 to 150 to 147 made him damaged goods before fighting Manny Pacquiao. Shane Mosley's secuess with weight jumping with a high point of beating Antonio Margarito is the expition not the rule.

    If Marquez decides to go to back to 135 he is more likely to get beat and beat badly by boxers whom he would have easly beaten if he stayed at the weight. His best move is to fight at 140 and/or 147.

    Based on the popular opinion of his performance against Pacquiao. Marquez should be able to get any fight he wants at 140 and most at 147 on mostly his terms.

    His best bet is to fight at 140. A bout with 140 WBO Timothy Bradley would be ideal for his counter-punching style, and probbly pretty easy to make since both are with Top Rank. A fourth fight with Pacquiao at 144 again is posibile. He's a better boxer than Amir Khan who's size advantage would likely cause problems for marquez and Khan is a Golden Boy Boxer. Means this match up while intreguing is not likely to happen. Another possible oppoent at 140 is Marcos Maidana who is rarely if ever in a dull fight. Than there is Erik Morales who holds the WBC championship at 140. A bout between Marquez and Morales would help sort out who is the best out of Marquez, Morales and Barrera.
     
  2. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    140 would be great. Whatever's best for him is good enough for me as a fan, but he's definitely able to take on one or two highly-ranked champions or contenders like Bradley, Khan, Maidana, and likely win impressively. I'd just hate to see him retire thinking about all he could do at lightweight (if feasible), junior-welterweight, or even against a few welterweights that aren't too big.
     
  3. juanitoboxing

    juanitoboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He should campaign at 140...could be interesting if he fights the winner of berto/ortiz 2 at 147
     
  4. MAIN

    MAIN Boxing Junkie banned

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    **** drinker and morales at 140

    better late than never
     
  5. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Marquez should just settle in at 140. So many great fights for him there. The only fight i wanted to see him do at 135 was Rios but i feel Rios is gonna be moving up soon anyway. Rios, Khan or Maidana and ill cream my pants.
     
  6. juanitoboxing

    juanitoboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rios-Marquez, didnt think about that one...sounds like a war
     
  7. MAIN

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    One fight i would like at 135 for **** drinker though (besides rios) is for him to beat the crap out of soto
     
  8. stillth3sameg

    stillth3sameg Woolly Rhino Full Member

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    rios/soto-marquez would be excellent fights ;)
     
  9. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    147 nooooo! dont make no dam sense. 140 WOW!!! He will be the measureing stick for ail those up and comming young fighters at that weight,and the fans will get to see some great fights. **** MANNY.
     
  10. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    :lol: This mofo still can't give a great fighter his respect and call him by his name without a butthurt cheap-shot. Come on MAIN, you're better than that.

    Rios and Soto would be good. I think he's looking for the best paydays. Soto probably wouldn't give it to him, but a number of fighters at 140 could do it for him. Morales is shot but some would buy it; a fight with Maidana is a guaranteed sell; Khan would be a huge-fight...it's a tough matchup but JMM could still pull it off; Bradley would be a great win on his record and is more easily winnable; Guerrero is still a champion at lightweight and might make the move to 140 soon...just one or two of these would be a real treat.

    Another bum? Have you seen JMM's lightweight run? It started right around the time Pac moved up to fight Oscar so I guess you'd be around...anyways, with a vast majority of people seeing JMM as the true winner of their last fight, Marquez has little to gain by wasting his time and efforts on another unfavorable decision.
     
  11. ViktorVaughn

    ViktorVaughn Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Marquez vs Morales at 140!!!
     
  12. J_Grizzy

    J_Grizzy Active Member Full Member

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    I think he should definitely fight at 140. He would have all kinds of great matchups available. I think he should NOT fight at or near 147 unless it's for a Pacquiao fight. The physical disadvantages would be too much to overcome.
     
  13. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    That kind of bum was a one-off tune-up fight inconsistent with the rest of JMM's great resume. You used the plural "bums".

    He may lose out on another pay-day, but if it was all about the money he'd be spouting **** through the media about how he won the first fight (a sentiment a vast majority of viewers agree with) and hounding Pac for a rematch. He wants to be able to fight without getting overlooked by biased or corrupt judges. He's sitting pretty on a Mexican promotional firm, millions earned over the span of an 18 year career, and a history in accounting.

    I think the warrior in Marquez would rather ride into the sunset with the scalps of a few young champions, rather than replicate the same feat so many already attribute to him at the risk of getting no official recognition for money he doesn't need at this age and stage of his career. He might very well retire and enjoy his life and family, and there would be no shame in that.
     
  14. polowear28

    polowear28 Active Member Full Member

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    Would people then consider the winner a true 4 division champ?
     
  15. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Completely disagree with this. A Marquez-Morales fight would be nice for the fans, but the gulf in class between the two (even with Morales looking "not as bad" as he did pre-layoff) makes it difficult for me to attach such meaning to that bout in 2011 or 2012.