Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Eusebio Pedroza at FW

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  1. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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  2. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pedroza, with his bag of dirty tricks would edge JMM. Pedroza W15 JMM.
     
  3. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pedroza would probably win a close, somewhat controversial decision, ala his fights with Rocky Lockridge.

    Maybe a bit too fluid for Juan at the end of the day.
     
  4. The Funny Man 7

    The Funny Man 7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I like Marquez by a 116-112ish margin but I wouldn't be surprised if he hit the deck along the way. Pedroza was impressive against Jorge Lujan who was a counter puncher like JMM but hardly on the same level. If they had a ref like Steve Smoger (who wouldn't deal with any bs from Pedroza) and it'll be a differant fight.
     
  5. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pedroza was a better boxer than Marquez flat out, dirty tactics or not. I hate the way he gets branded in the Saddler/Angott mold.
     
  6. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think it gets completely overplayed...though it is true he had a few dirty tricks, Pedroza get unfairly lumped in with the worst foulers in history.
     
  7. Thread Stealer

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    I don't think Pedroza was as consistently dirty, time in and time out, as some other fighters out there (Hopkins for example). Hopkins will be up 9-1 on the cards and still feel the need to hit the guy low when the ref is on the other side and can't see it.

    Though I do think that the LaPorte fight was one of the most blatant displays of fouling over a long fight that I've seen, and that he should've been DQ'd.
     
  8. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    I was hoping someone wouldnt bring that up :lol:..that and the Aba fight.
     
  9. Thread Stealer

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0AF57VMgL4&fmt=18[/ame]
     
  10. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hey, there's no disgrace being associated with those two great fighters...and let's face it, Pedroza was dirty...and one of my favorite fighters, btw.
     
  11. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, but ya gotta love that bolo punch.
     
  12. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Oh yes...I loved watching Pedroza defend his title..he did whatever it took to win..and as a result he was such a successful champion...and you would have never predicted that after he got splattered by Alfonso Zamora.
     
  13. TheGreatA

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  14. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like Pedroza by a fairly close decision. I'd give Pedroza the edge in most departments with the exception of punching power. Pedroza is one of my all-time favorites, but he was a dirty fighter. He was "skilled dirty" and worked it into his arsenal and made it look natural. Low bolo punches, kidney punches, elbows. He had a flow and a rythem to him. Great fighter.
     
  15. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    I think Marquez is too flat footed and easy to hit.It was the more physical aggressive boxer-punchers that gave Pedroza problems, and most of them were against a version that had lost a step imo.


    Marquez is too textbook and technically minded to fight like a Lockridge.I see him getting turned and kept off-balance for long stretches while being picked off from the outside, faring best when they get into more extended exchanges.

    pedroza isn't a fighter you want to hang back and counter, especially when you don't have the better defence, or big power that can turn a fight quickly.

    Pedroza 10-5 or 11-4 on points for me.