Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao II 10 year anniversary

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  1. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Well, if you count robberies as losses, then that's on you. Most others know Marquez won those fights!
     
  2. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you cannot say a fight he did not win is a win. That is just an opinion. Whether judges made bad decisions or not, they are the decisions. Hearns got a draw with Ray in a fight I thought he won in the rematch, but he didn't win. The judges said he didn't. What does it matter what I say or any other fan says. It doesn't change any official decision. Marquez only won one of those fights, and Pacman's career is so much greater than Marquez. Pacman's opposition was so much better and Marquez had a good style matchup with him, but that is about it. Manny is great and I don't think Marquez is. Marquez is hall of fame for sure.
     
  3. MVC!

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    Oh so do you think Whitaker won against Chavez then?
     
  4. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    And you can do that as a counter-puncher.

    We all know the real reason you emphasize that criteria is because it favors your hero to do so. It’s still not how you score a fight.
     
  5. Farmboxer

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    Marquez refused the rematch because he was getting the hell beaten out of him, almost stopped, if not for the PEDS, Marquez would have been knocked out and would have if Pac had not got careless and overconfident. Marquez knew he would have lost the rematch, esp. without PEDS!
     
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  6. titanic

    titanic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Somebody needs to learn how to count
     
  7. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yes I do.
     
  8. Somachenko

    Somachenko The Matador Team Full Member

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    I have no horse in this race but in the era of memes and pictures being passed around the internet forever, is it really possible to say Manny won that rivalry? At best there’s a 50/50% divide on whether or not there were any robberies in the first three fights, and the definitive victory was probably the first huge fight meme passed around social media.

    It might sound really stupid but I think the humiliation of the highly publicized nature of that knockout is something Manny hasn’t been able to live down in the boxing realm since.
     
  9. MVC!

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    Same thing here, all robberies. If going by your logic, perhaps we should look at that fight as a draw too! The official result matters only!!
     
  10. tinman

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    No I'm consistent with my scoring philosophy no matter the fighter. Don't lose sight of what pro boxing comes down to.
     
  11. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    2-1-1 and the haters just cannot move on.
     
  12. MVC!

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    Sore Pacquiao fans: "Pacquiao won 2-1-1!!!" when it's obvious Marquez AT LEAST won 3 of those bouts, if not 4 and of course knocked him dead in their last fight. Marquez laid him out on his face.

    Same Pacquiao fans: "Pacquiao beat Timmy 3 times!"

    :oops::bump:eaea::jump::meparto:
     
  13. inner2deepz

    inner2deepz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Fact is Floyd sh!t on them both with ease
     
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  14. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can't just say someone one if they didn't win on the scorecards. And it was not clearcut he won. I thought Manny won most of the fights. The judges score the fights. The fan's don't mean that much.
     
  15. Somachenko

    Somachenko The Matador Team Full Member

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    That’s such a cop out **** response lol so you get one in return. Hop off Manny’s nuts