Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Mike Alvarado & Viktor Postol vs. Selcuk Aydin RBR

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  1. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    within 9 rounds :shock:
     
  2. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Martinez will knock Cotto out!!!

    Marquez knocked Alvarado, then Alvarado knocked Marquez down in the very next round.................
     
  3. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ...and Marquez still won by a landslide. Your point?:lol:
     
  4. micky

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  5. Redwood

    Redwood Active Member Full Member

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    I scored the co-feature big for Postol through 10 rounds, 9-1 rounds, 99-91 points, giving Aydin only the 2nd round. Postol dominated most of the 1st round with his sharp jab, several overhand chopping rights, and three left hooks to the body; late in the round, Aydin landed one wild winging left hook that briefly staggered Postol, but it was not enough to swing the round. I did give Aydin the 2nd because for the only time in the fight, he was able to consistently work his way inside to pressure Postol, and he landed several good shots, including a right and left to the head, and later a couple rights to the body. From the 3rd round onward for the rest of the fight, Postol dominated, using his considerable height and reach advantages to box effectively, and keep Aydin comfortably at distance. He did this with occasional hard single and double jabs, either alone or as part of combinations, but mainly he peppered Aydin throughout the fight with numerous hard straight right-left and left-right combos to the head. Postol also mixed in some excellent body work, mainly in rounds 4 through 8, sometimes single rights or lefts, but more often incorporating the body work in his combinations, either to the body alone, or to the head then the body. His uppercuts were sporadic but tremendously effective, including a 3-uppercut combo in the last minute of the 5th, a right hook/uppercut (what Bradley called a “45”) in the first minute of the 7th that staggered Aydin for the first time in the fight, a right uppercut in the first minute of the 10th that sent Aydin into the ropes for the first time in the fight, and of course the devastating right uppercut that ended the fight in the 11th.

    Aydin was game, but except for the 2nd round, he was never able to work his way inside to pressure Postol, which would have been his only tactical chance to win the fight; instead, Postol kept him at distance, greatly outworked him, and greatly outlanded him (the official punch stats had Postol outlanding Aydin 395 to 118, but it seemed a much greater ratio than that). Aydin had occasional moments, including the left hook in the 1st, his work in the 2nd, a couple hard lefts each to the head and to the body in the 4th, a right and left to the head that had Postol retreating during the last minute of the 8th, and two wild winging overhand rights in the first minute of the 10th. But Postol's superior workrate and hard punches took their toll, and Aydin was finally reeling by the last two rounds of the fight. In the 11th, Postol landed 15-20 hard rights and lefts to the head in the first minute of the round, then continued working the head (Aydin was deducted 1 point during this time for a marginal punch behind the head), then finally a devastating 5-punch R-L-R-L-(R uppercut) combo to the head snapped Aydin's head back, sent him to the canvas, and ended the fight.

    This was an excellent performance by Postol against a genuinely tough opponent who had gone the distance at welterweight with both Guerrero and Soto-Karass within the previous two years. This win now makes Postol the mandatory for Danny Garcia, the WBC junior welterweight titleholder, so Postol should get a title shot in his next fight, probably for the vacated title since Garcia will likely move up. The junior welterweight division is currently not very deep with talent, but it is top-heavy with some big names, and Postol, who is not tied to any American promoter, offers an interesting stylistic matchup with any of them. I very much look forward to seeing him in future fights.

    P.S. The crowd in attendance was absolutely pathetic during this fight. Beginning in the 4th, they booed, whistled, and catcalled at some point in every round. This despite the fact the fight was fought at a good pace, and the fact that Postol put in an excellent boxing performance while maintaining a very high workrate. I don't know if the crowd was impatient for JMM, or if they had no interest in a fight between two Europeans, or if they were bored by a boxing match that featured actual boxing instead of wild brawling. I think the crowd was very unfair. I found the fight genuinely entertaining, and worthy of its co-feature slot.
     
  6. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    ...They used to call him "Split that baby" Bradley Solomon. Not popular, that.
     
  7. Big Bang

    Big Bang Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I actually fell asleep but woke up in time for the Postol KO and main event............. now I'm a grumpy sod due to lack of sleep.......again!
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :lol:

    Still only the 2nd worst iteration, however.

    Brad "I Keep My Bling Hidden In Zinj With The Bad Gorillas Holding It Down" Solomon - that was bad. That one took years off Buffer's career. :-(
     
  9. VBOX

    VBOX JOURNEYMAN Full Member

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    Damn. Keep betting against these old guys yet they keep winning. The new crop of fighters just don't seem to have it...
     
  10. slicksouthpaw16

    slicksouthpaw16 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fighters such as Marquez and Hopkins at least, are not typical old fighters though, both rank pretty high on atg lists but even then, they should watch who they fight. Hopkins always struggled with speed and movement and Marquez just lost to Bradley for that very reason. They're opponents were good fighters, but pretty much made to order for them. As for Marquez, i think there's a reason why he choose Alvarado over Provodnikov.