Judah never DID anything to Cotto

scar said cotto-mosley only did 300.000 that is cotto-judah

 

I only saw freddys post.

 

Exactly! Zab did head but intentially...Grant it...it was after the low blow from Cotto in order for Cotto to gain some extra time to gather his senses but it wasn't a clean fight overall. The low blow played a factor in the fight but I'm not confident to say that was the only way Cotto won that fight. Cotto proved he is definitely on level with the Zabs and Shane's of the world.

 

Cotto wouldn't do much better than Hatton, I don't think, and his chin is weaker, than Ricky's, so maybe an earlier KO. Although, I think Cotto is more likely to KO Mayweather than Hatton was.

 

Suck my dick *****! You don't know who you ****ing with cake ass *****. You ain't **** boy probably some 14 year old kid typing this **** from your mom's basement who just starting watching boxing because of Cotto. I eat lames like you for breakfast.You remind me of those dumbass Hatton fans who came out of the woodwork before the fight talking **** and popping off at the mouth and now you can't find any of them. I was here before you and I'll be here long after you.:hi: Now **** off!:thumbsup

 

Oh my go, so much BS in this thread. I cannot believe people are disputing such obvious facts as the following:

- Zab's fight with Floyd was NOT close. Zab won early rounds on aggression, not clean punches. He landed FEW clean punches. One of these punches surprised Floyd, and in his effort to avoid it, he became off balanced and had to catch himself with his glove to keep from going down. It was obvious that Floyd was not hurt, just surprised, and off balance from the big shot. After Floyd figured out Zab's speed, he changed his style, and then completely picked Zab apart in the following rounds. It is obvious Floyd was close to taking him out before the action was interrupted by the intentional low blow followed by a rabbit punch, and susequent riot.

- Cotto was hurt by Zab. About to go? Who knows, but many many people ringside have confirmed this, writers, commentators, and now even a poster in this thread!

- Even if Cotto's win over Zab is more impressive than Floyd's, this means NOTHING. Styles make fights. Styles make fights, STYLES MAKE MOTHER ****ING FIGHTS. ITs not that complicated. Hatton beat Jose Luis Castillo in a more impressive fashion than Floyd (hell, many people feel that Floyd even LOST to Castillo in their first fight). So Hatton beats Floyd right? Yeah Hatton tore him up - oh wait no, thats not what happene, Hatton got KNOCKED THE **** OUT!

- A low blow does not have to land exactly on where you thin someones BALLS are to have an effect. Fighters wear foul protectors. Getting hit ANYWHERE on the foul protector can hurt you a LOT in your balls. So stop saying "Zab wasn't even hit in the balls!" Can you seriously be a boxing fans and not know this?

And one more thing, why are people still using JLC's performance against Floyd as a way of saying "Floyd can be beaten!" ??

Yeah, if Cotto or Hatton fought Floyd 5 years ago. But its pretty obvious to me that Floyd has improved a LOT as a fighter since then. Offensively he isn't as aggressive as he used to be, but his defense is much better, and his ring 'smarts' are now AMAZING. Hell Floyd changed as a fighter just over the course of the Castillo fight a lot just in that one fight. His defense and counter punching skills are so much improved that he often just stands right there in the pocket and unloads on his opponents, without even having to use his footwork.

Floyd's ability to adapt his game plan mid-fight is AMAZING. The fight with Judah is a great example. Judah DID win early rounds, his handspeed and power were giving Floyd problems, so Floyd COMPLETELY changes his style. COMPLETELY changes it, and executes it perfectly.

And one more thing, Zab did NOT show you how to beat Mayweather. With speed and power? Well if you do this you might win 4 rounds, but after Floyd figures you out, you're ****ed.

Cotto won't just have to be able to adapt his gameplan in the fight, he'll have to adapt it more than once probably, cause Floyd certainly can!!!

 

Shut the thread down excellent post!

 

Well I'm glad you think so, but I'm sure it will make my third day on the forum a it rocky

REally though, I just can't believe this forum has so many people that CANNOT look at fights objectively.

 

It's nice to see that you're continuing the trend.:good

 

You're the master man. props and thanks for this informative post.:good
peace

 

A few minor exceptions to what in general is an excellent post.

A) Judah's connect percentage (particularly with power punches) was actually quite high against Mayweather in the early rounds (it was hovering around the 50% range at one point); he was dropped (though not hurt) in the 2nd, and jolted momentarily in the 4th. Then, of course, Mayweather switched tactics, applied pressure (people seem to forget this about the fight...he was moving forward from the 5th round on), and eventually ground Judah's resistance down.

Cotto was stunned at several points in the Judah fight, but, as the video demonstrates, he was able to either defend himself very nicely, or, attacked in such a way that he was able to carry the remaineder of the rounds. Yeah, he caught Judah low...but both fighters aimed low, and used their heads during the course of the fight. As far as general dynamic is concerned, Cotto took a few nasty power-punches, shook off their effects, and proceeded to grind out a late stoppage. Can't go wrong with that.

So, again, we're left wondering whether what questions the p4p best fighter in the sport will ask of his number one challenger...and what questions Cotto will ask in return. Both fighters have shown the ability to adapt during the course of a fight...and both will likely have to do so during the course of their meeting.

From a purely artistic standpoint, it should be a ton of fun to watch, and I, for one, want to see it while the two fighters are still in their prime.

 

Judah's connect PERCENTAGE was high, but the numbers of punches he connected with was quite low. Hell even later in the fight his connect percentage was high in a couple of rounds. Like in one round I thin he landed liek 5 or 6 power shots. But of course, he only throw 8 punches the entire round! Those numers are innacurate, but they were something like that.

And btw when I talked aout how much Mayweather got hit in that fight, I was referring to CLEAN EFFECTIVE punches. That fight is an easy one to score, and if you watch it closely, I'd say Zab only hits him CLEANLY less than 5 times (though I'd really say its more like 2-3 times!). And of course if you look akt total punch connects, Zab throws so few (and connects so few of course) later in the fight, that Floyd outlands him by the end of the fight by a LARGE margin. What you mention though, about Floyd changing tactics and turning into a pressure fighter though, is what impresses me most. If you like the SWEET SCIENCE, then its a VERY amazing fight to watch.

And btw I think you make a VERY good point about Cotto. People just talk about his pressure and his left hook to his body, and his power. But theres much more to him than that. He has a pretty good jab, and I think his hand speed is pretty good too. His defense is leaky of course, but he's very tricky to fight I think. One thing that really impresses me is that he seems to conciously change the speed and power of his punches. He'll put the jab out there kind of slowly without much power a few times, then BAM he'll shoot it out there very quick, very stiff too. Very clever stuff. This is the stuff I see giving Floyd problems, not the power punching to the body, or his left hook. Floyd has shown recently that he knows how to deal with that.

 

I'm not sure what you mean by this but I've posted several pics of myself on this forum do a search. BTW you couldn't be more wrong I'm Black not White. I don't mind shooting the **** we all come here to do that. You came off as a ill informed poster especially with you being a newbie.

 

man I wanna see this fight so bad, but it may never happen.

i think cotto would give FM hell. but I also think FM has a style that would trouble cotto too. they are made for each other.

At this point I would lean towards mayweather, but cotto has a great shot... the only fighter i can see beating cotto right now is FM

 

And still after one week and 75 posts you are posting everything 3 timesatschatsch :huh pfffff