Judge Roth: “How anybody could see that fight so one-sided is beyond me

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  1. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    "I thought bradley was coming on and I thought coming on fairly strong"

    that's a ****ing joke. it's as if he was watching bradley-alexander, or bradley-witter. he should be banned from judging in all honesty.
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    ...and Pac isn't the world's sweetheart at all, is he? Couldn't have been a pro-Pac atmosphere in the venue itself? Maybe reacting a bit strongly to every left hand he threw with ooh's-n-ahh's? Maybe not paying much mind to any body shots Bradley was landing?
     
  3. Smokin' Joe

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    Here's a judge saying "I gave Pacquiao 5 of the first 6 rounds". The second half of the fight, we KNOW Pacquiao took his foot off the gas and let Bradley back in. And people are STILL going to call this guy corrupt. He saw the fight exactly as many, many people did. Not saying Bradley did enough to win, he didn't. But an 11-1 fight? Utterly absurd.

    There's an interesting correlation between those who watched on HBO shouting 'Robbery' and talking about an 11-1 fight compared to those who watched on other channels. :think
     
  4. MutePoster

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    :yep:yep
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    His 115-113 is perfectly acceptable, for the reasons he gave. The 2nd half of the fight had a lot of close rounds.

    People feel this was a whitewash because of Pac's dominance in the first half.

    However, if one guy wins 5-6 rounds dominantly and the other guy happens to just squeak by in each of the next several, struggling to do so and still getting buzzed now and then but ever so slightly edging each frame - while "feeling" like the 1st guy did a lot better overall - it can (and should) wind up being close on the cards. Pac did slow down considerably on the whole about midway, outside of some late bursts in attempts to steal rounds.

    The nuances of that concept are too subtle for most on here. :!:


    ..and I had it wider for Pac than Roth. 116-112. Can still see where he's coming from. Most of my Bradley rounds were in the second half.
     
  6. Boxing Fanatic

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    even if he thought it was close, bradley still didnt win the fight
     
  7. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    Dear ******ed troll and nuthugger,

    Do you really think you are fooling anybody? :rofl

    What a life you have!
     
  8. Uncle Rico

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    "Then in the latter part of the fight I thought he just didn’t do enough […..] Bradley was coming on and I thought fairly strong."

    While you spend a couple of hours decoding those words and studying what exactly he could possibly mean, the rest of us are just gonna’ settle with him favoring workrate (and aggression) – things which aren’t the be all and end all when scoring professional boxing.

    But let us know how you get on, though.
     
  9. Smokin' Joe

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    Sums up the situation perfectly.


    There's a hell of a lot of people here that need to watch more boxing.
     
  10. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    the thing is, how was timothy bradley just getting by, if he was struggling and still getting buzzed? I feel if that's the case, those rounds should be going to pacquiao.
     
  11. MutePoster

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  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :roll: Because that isn't all that was happening in the rounds. Way to single those things out and act like I said they were the defining characteristic of the latter rounds, rather than a caveat to Bradley coming on strong and overall doing the slightly better work in spite of those caveats.

    ****ing reprehensible twisting of words there, you ought to be ashamed for trying something so petty and transparent. You're better than that.

    Way to completely deflect attention away from the overriding point.

    Six dominant rounds (without knockdowns) are valued on the 10-point must system as EXACTLY the same as a six life-and-death skin-of-one's-teeth rounds.

    If Fighter A kicks Fighter B's ass for six rounds (but never drops him), and then drops off his workrate and does slightly inferior work from rounds 7-12...it's a ****ing 114-114 draw.
     
  13. McGrain

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    This is it though IB, your conspiracy is running deeper than some of the nuts now.

    You got HBO, bias, viewers, unable to think because of that bias, press, bias, great majority of television viewers on other broadcast, biased, huge majority of spectators at the venue, biased, me, biased.

    Just how Dempsey lost to Tunney or Ali lost to Berbick, we'll never know.

    You're in a rather slender minority for a good reason.
     
  14. JohnAnthony

    JohnAnthony Boxing Junkie banned

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    you shouldn't be using past opinion of the fighter. Such as - Pac wasn't showing his usual kller instinct, which is why you didn't give him the rounds.

    Just watch the fight like you don't know who either fighter is and judge them.
     
  15. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    I am sorry but Timmy had flat tires the entire fight and pacquiao still respected him enough to avoid trying to go in there and Blitz Timmy that speaks Volumes about Tims ability to punch and his game plan that night.

    Considering you get your power from your feet with a sprained ankle on one side and a broken foot on the other, Manny not being able to take advantage of that and exploit that he deserves to lose

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