Judge Roth: “How anybody could see that fight so one-sided is beyond me

You can put up a picture of Pac and Marquez post fight and Pac looks pretty much equally clean while Marquez looks equally as ****ed up and you'll still can't say Pacquiao "beat that ass"

And to say Mayweather "beat that ass" is laughable. Did he win? Yes. I have immense respect for Floyd for winning in convincing fashion, but "beat that ass" he did not. He beat Shane's ass. Beat Marquez's ass. Beat Ortiz's ass even prior to the awkward ending. But in no way did he beat Cotto's ass.

 

Wonderfully put :good

 

**** I agree with the judge. I didn't see a complete wipeout in that fight.

 

Even then, I scored the first two rounds for Bradley. He just did a little more in each of those two frames to offset the brief bursts of clean effective punching that Pac initiated near the end of each stanza. Pac dominated the majority of the frames after that, but not to the extant that a 10-8 round was at all warranted. So, that's a 4-2 margin going into the second portion of the fight, and that's not enough of a pad to put it on deep freeze and fight 30 seconds of each round from that point forward.

It's a variation of the point you're making. Pac dominated three frames, and I could only give one clear to Bradley. But there's enough gray area in most of the other frames where a close scorecard isn't at all ludicrous.

When a thread was asked to post a scorecard, there were nine rounds listed by multiple posters that were listed as Bradley's. Even if you don't score all nine in favor of Desert Storm, and only score about half of them for him instead, that's still enough to ensure that this fight isn't the whitewash everyone is making it out to be.

 

Cotto was pissing blood and didnt give an immediate post fight interview because he was complaining of ringing in his ear so he had to seek medical attention.

Please define what ass whooping is to you? Mayweather have to kill him?

 

I absolutely agree that Manny "lost" the fight more than Bradley "won" the fight. This reminds me of JT vs Hopkins I, JT won the first half of the fight clearly, but without anything of real note happening. In the late stages of the fight Hopkins picked it up and the rounds he won were more significant and he did more damage than the rounds Jermain won early. At the end of the day that wasn't important because he didn't score a knockdown/knockout and in a 10 point must system he lost. I view it as Hopkins "lost" the fight, more than Jermain "won" the fight, due to his inactivity and failure to do anything of significance for the first 7 rounds. Obviously the timing is reversed in this fight but the principle is the same.

 

There's a reason this robbery has gotten so much attention and so much reaction for the world of boxing. I know there are the 1% who agree with the judges and such, but when there's a STRONG and CONSISTENT message from the majority demanding answers....it's pretty clear a robbery took place on Saturday. Those who are calling for action based on the blatant robbery are coming from A LOT of folks.....The small group who had the fight for Tim or thought it was close really aren't even a drop in the bucket.... there were some who actually thought Holy deserved a draw with LL and people who though Rios did enough to beat Abril....Not many...but some.

 

So he gave Bradley the later rounds, because Pac did not have the killer instinct that he usually has.. Did I understand it correctly?

 

I highly disagree with the judge, I didn't see a close fight at all.

 

I totally agree with everything Roth said.

 

sounds like a comparable situation. I have to watch that fight again to see if it applies. I havent seen it in years.

 

Pissing blood? Are you saying that being a cheep ***** and hurting your opponents kidneys with illegal kidney punches is whooping?

 

That's not accurate...1,2,5,7,8,10,11,12 are all rounds that could be scored for Bradley depending on your taste/perspective/opinion. 3rd, 4th, and 6th were the most clear rounds Manny won (all three judges cards), 7th, 10th, and 12th were the most clear rounds for Bradley (all three judges cards)...that leaves 6 rounds that weren't "clear" rounds and that could go either way...especially 2,5,8,11. I don't understand what's so hard to comprehend about that, I agree that Manny was much more dominant during the rounds he won, but it doesn't change the fact that this fight when scored on a 10 point must system is close.