Judge Roth: “How anybody could see that fight so one-sided is beyond me

Reputable and honest isn't exclusive to old and arrogant. A 74 year old man has no business judging a championship fight. He is too old and too slow to follow the action plain and simple.

 

Tim was definitely faded. He did rely on the job as his main weapon, but he DID land right hands as well as body shots.. If he connects cleanly on Pac why does he have to damage him? He clearly cannot hurt Pac, so does that mean he should automatically lose the fight? Yes his jab was nice for those purposes, keeping range, keeping Pac off of him and stopping Pac's offense for large portions of rounds.. That doesn't help his case in scoring a round?

Tim hit Pac with jabs, right hands and body shots.. Even if you don't believe he was trying to win, scoring shots are scoring shots.. Add in the fact that he kept Pac off him for large periods of rounds with his jab and movement... You guys keep talking like he did nothing for those 2 minutes while Pac did nothing though.. Pac barley threw until the very end of the round during the mid points and end of the fight, I can't call that trying to win more than Bradley was who threw and kept Pac off him while Pac wasn't throwing.

 

You mean the check hook that hits Pac's shoulder?

Why would HBO give attention to a punch that doesn't land?

 

I cant believe that there are so many wining cocksuckers.
Bradley fought a great fight and people are trying to take it away from him.
Manny Pac rather watch basketball than fightm.
And he just plain isnt that good.

 

Well Said. :good

 

******s on this forum. What can you expect from the internet.

 

Who said anything about perfect cards? If people scoring the fight across the board give many many different rounds to different fighters wouldn't you think the rounds were not clear to score? If they were so clear, why the inconsistency?

Again, you have to look at a fight round by round. If the rounds are not clear across the board, you'll have different scorecards.. If 10 of the scoring individuals give 9 different rounds to fighter A, why is it impossible to believe 2 scoring individuals have a total of 7 going to fighter A? Almost nobody, but NOT nobody. The first 20 or so on your list have the fight within a few rounds, how is it impossible a judge saw two of those close rounds going the other way?

What's complete nonsense.. There were several close rounds or people need to watch the fight again?

Also, I did NOT score the fight in favor for Bradley. I'm just saying there were several close rounds and it's not impossible for judges to have come up with that score.

 

Honestly bro.....I saw little body work from Tim....he laded a nice 2 punch body combo in round 4 or 5 but that was about it. The jabs he threw were in abundance but only a very small percentage found their mark.

PAC out landed Tim in power punches and overall...PAC was more accurate...PAC did more damage....PAC controlled the pace of the fight and for the most part controlled distance up until Tim went into full survival mode.

Tim was game....and durable....but he did nothing that would lead me to the conclusion he won or even was competitive. Cotto was compeitive against Floyd in a losing effort...Tim wasn't competitive in his "win" over manny. Respect! I know you are calling like you see it but I just don't see how you thought this fight was close.

 

Jeff Mayweather thought pac won by that 10-2 scorecard....jus sayin:hat

 

No I don't. I'm trying to make a point that there were close rounds. Do you agree?

I do believe Pac won, never said he didn't. I'm saying there were several close rounds, so it's not crazy to believe people gave Bradley close rounds.

You keep trying to take it as a whole.. Round by round, it was close. Boxing is scored round by round. If it was close round by round, Bradley could have received 7 of those close rounds on scorecards.. No?

Yes. Do you understand out of around 100 registered cards, the rounds they DID score for Bradley were all over the place? Meaning the rounds were close. Meaning Bradley could have received more of the close rounds on a few scorecards than Manny did. Again, go round by round, not just look at the entire fight as a whole.

And 115-113 in favor of Pac is my scorecard, I've posted my round by round scoring on another thread the day after the fight. If that judge gave 5 rounds to Bradley, and there were several close rounds, why could another judge not give Bradley another 2 that were close instead of Pac?

I cannot just say that because boxing is not that simple.. Boxing is scored round by round.. If several rounds were close scorecards can be all over the place.. And from what you've posted there are several different scores.. And if you look deeper I'm sure out of the scores that ARE the same, Bradley won different rounds.. Meaning it's a possibility that Bradley won 7 of those in the eyes of some.

 

totally agree with this guy.

 

Dunno what to say then.. Bradley landed nice body shots, almost NONE being stated by HBO. If you believe he only really landed body shots in ONE round, I hope you have access to watch it again and highly suggest you do.

But Pac was not consistent round by round. Overall he did. His punches hurt more, does that mean Bradley doesn't get credit for his punches unless Pac doesn't land? Can't knock the man because he can't hurt Pac. Pac was more accurate when he threw, but threw far less especially in the middle and end of the fight. When did Tim go into full survival mode? As early as round 9 Tim was controlling distance and Pac's output with his jab and movement.

Guess we'll agree to disagree... From what I'm reading you don't believe Tim landed anything of note, and I don't agree with that at all. First watch I thought he landed FAR less than I saw him land second time around. Partly due to intoxication during the live fight, as well as bias ass HBO coming through my speakers.

 

Suck a bag of dicks. If you actually scored it for Bradley then quit posting on this site and become a professional cheer leader.