Judges for Clenelo vs. Jacobs looking fine! No reason to believe in a massive robbery!

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  1. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    First: I do not like Canelo and i do think he lost both fights vs. Golovkin but let's be a bit more objective: Second fight was razor close fight, first one was close aswell but i think more clear for Golovkin. Second fight has wide acceptable range of scores in my opinion. But i do believe we get fair scorecards tonight. There are lot of comments all over the world that suggesting Jacobs can't win on points here but i doubt that. I think if JAcobs delivers he can do that for sure. It'll be tough and hard but it's not impossible, the scorecards are not pre filled with some insane scores like 118-110.

    Dave Moretti, from Las Vegas

    Had the first fight 115-113 Golovkin and the second fight 115-113 Clenelo. This is legit. I do think Clenelo lost both fights but at least the second one could be a decision for Clenelo aswell as there were many many close rounds.
    Furthermore Moretti scored a fight two days ago in favor of the unpromoted underdog (Vitalii Kopylenko), he scored it 95-94 for Kopylenko while the other two judges hat it relatively wide for the GBP fighter Butler, who was knocked down by the way and nearly stopped after nasty body shots.

    Glenn Feldman, from Connecticut

    Had the second fight vs. Golovkin 114-114 and this is fine aswell as mentioned above there is probably a wider range of legit scorecards in that second fight as i think it was a super close fight with couple of rounds which can go either way.

    Steve Weisfeld, from New Jersey
    He had the second fight 115-113 for Clenelo which is fine aswell. I do not agree but i can see it at least. Furthermore Weisfeld has a history of scoring Jacobs and i think he did it well. He scored the fight vs. Derevyanchenko 115-112 Jacobs, he scored the Sulecki fight 115-112 aswell and he had Jacobs losing 112-115 vs. Golovkin which is acceptable too.


    No reason to make our sports more corrupt than he is, especially before we get a reason to claim there is a corrupt and massive robbery as the fight isn't even finished yet.
     
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  2. Gennady

    Gennady Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Same judges who robbed Golovkin, joke.
     
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  3. h8me

    h8me Member Full Member

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    These judges didn't rob Golovkin as you can see above.
     
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  4. kk17

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  5. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    three of the best judges out there
     
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  6. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Bull F's &h^t, they robbed him.

    Let's look at a large pool of boxing writers, and media people not three cherry picked people:

    Here are all the cards from people covering or in boxing.

    116 = GGG won
    021 = Draw
    009 = Canelo won [includes 2 Golden Boy promoters]

    116/146 = 79% had GGG winning the fight.
    021/146 = 15% had a draw.
    009/146 = 06% had Canelo winning the fight.

    If this was Box Rec, Golovkin has 2 "news wins " over Canelo. When I see numbers like this, it shows the wrong man won.
     
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  7. h8me

    h8me Member Full Member

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    You can copy paste pretty good but can't read so well. We were talking about this particular judges. Golovkin won the first fight and Moretti scored it for him. The second fight could go either way and was not even close to being a robbery. Moretti and Weisfeld had it for Canelo which is perfectly fine and Feldman had a draw.
     
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  8. BCS8

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    Jacobs is probably doomed if it goes to the cards. I think he's gonna need a KD to get the win.
     
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  9. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dave Moretti has judged a lot of Canelo's fights and his cards are always within reason.

    C.J. Ross
    Levi martinez
    A. Byrd

    Those are the ones you have to watch out for.
     
  10. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

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    Yea. With the kind of history of suspect scoring in CA's fights, Jacobs may end up having to score at least a kd to get a decision. Think CA stops him late though.
     
  11. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I read fine. Wake up and smell the coffee. The fight is in Las Vegas, the gambling capital of the world, and Canelo will have favorable judging. Want some more detail? Okay.

    " Alvarez has been awarded debatable decision wins in Las Vegas against Gennadiy Golovkin and Erislandy Lara, as well as a controversial split draw with Golovkin in their first fight. The fact that one judge, C.J. Ross, even scored Alvarez’s obvious defeat to Floyd Mayweather Jr. a draw (114-114) in September 2013 has Jacobs’ manager on edge entering their DAZN main event at T-Mobile Arena. "

    [url]https://www.*******.com/jacobs-manager-needs-spotlight-on-canelo-jacobs-judges--138628[/url]

    It doesn't matter who the three judges are, Canelo has had 12 fight in Las Vegas, and for reasons beyond coincidence, they smile upon him.

    One of the boxing problems is the judges are not paid much. Another is the commission picks the judges. IMO, there should be a lottery draw 48 hours before the fight with a pool of 12 approved judges by both sides. But we'll never see that. It's whomever the Nevada commission picks, and the commission here has made a lot of $$$$$$$$ on Canelo in Las Vegas. How does the coffee smell now?
     
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  12. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Or maybe Moretti is just better about making it look close when he needs to.
     
  13. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe, but that theory is based on pure speculation while Byrd being a horrible judge actually has clear evidence.
     
  14. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I love when people dismiss those scores by the people who cover this sport all year around
     
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  15. don owens

    don owens Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At least put Adelaide Byrd in one of the judge spots. Come on, let's have some objectivity in this fight.
     
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