Would like to become a judge/ref. I am in Qld, who would I contact. Is it like footy where you go do a course to become accredited? I have been searching the web but am unable to find a contact or information about how to become one. I dont want to do amatuers as I dont like the press button system. I have tried this a few times. Anyone with any info please? Would be greatly appreciated Thanks
Send a private message to the moderator 'Chucky'(he knows about this kind of stuff). If you havent accumulated enough posts to send private messages, just start a thread in the Lounge titled 'Application process' then just type the following... JTSX = J44tomQLD Thats all you need to do. Chucky will forward your code to those that can help and you'll be notified of what you need to do next in the coming days.
hi mate, just go to the anbf web site and go to the contacts page and there will be a QLD rep u can contact
The Man First you would need to apply to become a member and need a proposer and seconder. Contacting Jimmy Young the secretary is the way to go. Four years later when you get off the phone to him. Submit your forms stating what experience you have along with who is going to nominate you. If application is successful you will need to submit 30 accurate scorecards in which fights go the distance, once these are done you can start judging. After a while you will get your feet wet reffingin exhibitions and then the odd 4 rounder and you just build up from there. Hope this helps Phil
SOunds like a long winded process!! I am an avid boxing follower and am well schooled with the rules. Its not like League or soccer where they encourage people to become refs. Seems like a closed shop and we see the same old refs for the past 20 years. Maybe its time for an overhaul of the systems in place. I am not saying that I would be competent to jump in the ring to ref a fight right away but just to judge a fight would not be too hard. I had some experience with amatuer judging, but its not my go. I called Jimmy young last year and he told me I cant do anything and to go do amatuers for a few years then call him back. Didnt find him very helpful at all. They should be encouraging new people into the sport not chase them away. I am 38 years old not as if I am exactly a spring chicken myself!
Yep! That is exactly what it is - a closed shop! atsch I do not know you mate, but I would have to question your committment if you think this is long winded. I walked Victor Laughlin (A British Star Class ref from Scotland) through our process in South Africa recently and he could not believe how easy it is in comparison. From B Class to SCA took him 9 years which is pretty good... You cannot compare this to ****ing soccer or any other sport - as a certain English Light-Welter likes to say, it's not a tickling competition: It's boy's lives and careers we are talking about here! If you go and be a soccer ref of which there are a shitload more games than fight-nights, and **** up - oh well it's only a game. In boxing it could be a lad's health or career path that goes down the shitter. Personally, I had an amatuer background first as one of the more average fighters you will ever see and then as an official, and I followed that process there as well before being approached by Jimmy Young to turn pro and I then followed that process again. If you are not prepared to do whatever it takes (in any field), then it ain't for you. I'll explain further - this is a service to the sport and to give something back. Yes there are rewards there if you are dedicated and are good enough; I am lucky in that I have made more money than most but it has also come at the expense of family prosperity at times because you have to do what it takes (If 30 trial cards is too much, then again it ain't for you). Along the way I have been threatened, abused and spat at by crowds who would prefer to see boys get badly hurt and slagged off by journo's who would prefer sensationalism over facts for a story. I have driven 200kms for a $120 pay day more often than I have gotten big money fights or dream appointments and I (and many others) did/do it to keep getting better and earn our stripes. I see no problem with being asked to earn your stripes in the am's - it's just a like a fighter: it's where you get your grounding. To address your last point, like a lot of things it looks a lot easier to judge a fight than it really is and I would not like to be part of any org that would not want to be shown that you can competently do the job before being thrown in there. I wish you the very best for your future Phil
Looks like is back to the league fields next year to officiate! I see the same refs and judges for the past 20 years. Some make mistake after mistake but are still in the ring the next time I go to the fights. I dont think for a minute that i could walk into a ring an ref a fight. I am almost certain I could judge a fight with the correct outcome. I went to officiate several amatuer nights with Seru and got 45 out of 46 fights correct in my last fight night. That was better than most of the qualified judges on hand. Oh well, looks like I will just stick to doing my own score cards whist I watch and shake my head in amazement at some outcomes. Not having a go at you Phil I have seen you ref many times and your up there with the best in the country. Thanks for your response
Up to you TM - my point I am trying to make is that if it is truly something you want to do, it is worth the work. If it ain't worth it it ain't for you and vice versa. There are judges world wide who will make you shake your head from time to time and some of them do some very, very big fights. If you truly have the ability to judge and keep your concentration for 12 rounds in some pretty heated battles with some hostile atmospheres then you should give it a go. But **** me! 30 trial cards is too much? Selwyn Currie's credentials in boxing are a given. He's done his 30 as has Paul Tapley and if it is good enough for them then it should be good enough for anyone. I welcome anyone who has the desire to join the ranks of the officials. God knows we need new blood! But you must show that you have the stuff required before you start; that is only reasonable. Think long and hard about it mate, my previous post was not a "Look at me" but a snippet of what you need to put up with and go through. If it still appeals give me a hoy and I will do whatever I can to help you Phil Marcus - **** you!!!! I got mine from a cornflakes packet... don't let the facts get in the way of a good story though eh?
Phil, have the ANBF ever considered an exchange program for Refs around the world? for some variety, it would be good to see some refs from overseas come here and i'm sure the aussie refs would benefit from going overseas.
It's a hard thing to organise logistically Barge as boxing is run by different bodies in different states - ANBF in QLD, NSW BA in NSW and so on. Nationally the ANBF is the body that runs and sanctions national titles. We have been really lucky for the officials that have visited this country for title fights. You really can't imagine the mini seminars I've had with Pat Russell, Pete Podgorski, Jack Reiss, Bobby Byrd and Tommy Kimmons to mention a few. They have just been great and all officials learn from others. There is really no exchange programme you could do as the money is just not there, but it is a fantastic idea mate and I really like it. Ippy - Plod as an R&J? I'd nominate you tomorrow! Let me know if I can ever help
Cheers mate. I do think it's something I'd like to do in the future. I reckon the job now is good practise, I'd like to think I'm a pretty good judge of when someone has had enough!