Judging by his display v GGG is Canelo now better than anyone Floyd faced in his prime?

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  1. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "let's not get it twisted" he says, then goes on to post his twisted delusions.

    LOL
     
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    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Lets meet up and settle this, PM me and we will discuss this further
     
  3. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The question was about Floyd in his prime.
     
  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Pacquiao, Marquez, Mosley, and Corrales were P4P top 3, top 3, top 5, and top 10 when he fought them. That is pretty damn great. Marquez of course was debuting two divisions up.

    A small percentage had Cotto back in at the rear when they fought. Judah had cracked The Ring's #10 spot at the end of 2005 before getting bounced by Baldomir, the fight before he fought Floyd so a near miss.

    Genaro is a great of his division and was undefeated at the weight entering. While it was his last ever fight and he was nowhere near prime, he was 32, not some 38 or 40.

    Castillo is probably the best LW of the 2000-09 decade. For reference, he ended up cracking The Ring's top 10 P4P for both 2005 and '06.

    I feel Genaro, Castillo, and Corrales do get stated but are still sold short when discussing Floyd especially in this context.

    Canelo is a gem to his legacy, that's for sure. I knew it was at the time but it has aged pretty supremely well for his legacy, as many of his "PPV king welterweight days" opponents famously entered the fight on a big high but didn't sustain a fraction of those same heights after losing to Floyd (from Mosley [entered #3 WW] to Ortiz [entered #3 WW] to Guerrero [entered #5-6-ish WW]).
     
  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I meant when they fought Floyd where were they rated, Mosley was considered washed up and nowhere near the top 10 P4P, but then earned a crack at Floyd by beating Antonio M. I still don`t think he got back to the top 5 P4P in the ring magazine ratinga, Manny had just been knocked out by JMM before his bout with Floyd, so he was not rated in the top 10 either.
     
  6. RingKing75

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    Outside of Beating Corrales FlIVds resume is filled with old men and blown up lightweights. Canelo resume is clearly better. Not only is his better but there are a lot of fighters with better resumes. Andre Wards resume shts all over FlIVds.
     
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  7. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I wasn't speculating. What I said is reality. Mosley was #3 P4P by the Ring. Immediate retrospect told a wildly different tale but it was what it was. Pac had regained up to top 3 in almost every P4P list when the fight with Floyd happened; with KTFO6 three years in the mirror.
     
  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Did Manny and Shane got into the top 3 P4P according to the ring magazine though? Who were the top P4P fighters at this time? They couldn`t be as good as today`s elite fighters because there`s no way at the stages of career these two were at that they would break into the top 3 p4p today at all.
     
  9. Nonito Smoak

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    Probably but it is what it is.
     
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  10. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Now you're claiming fmj didn't try. His greatest performance yet you think he didn't try. Get a ****ing clue, please
     
  11. C HOP

    C HOP The World Awaits Full Member

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    Canelo was a beast in his early days, just like he is now.. I remember his fight against Ryan Rhodes where he was just pressure after pressure, and Rhodes was a good fighter..

    He is exactly the same now just more accurate. Still lost twice to GGG and would also lose to Floyd. But he still has some class style and fun to watch.
     
  12. inner2deepz

    inner2deepz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Canelo was green if you actually think he gave 100% you’re stupid. Floyd could have ran which he didn’t the fight shouldn’t have been a MD. Go back and rewatch ******
     
  13. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    it is possible he can be better than Floyd soon enough. You can be better than someone who beats you. Hearns is great,and Barkley beat him twice.
     
  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Barkley was never better tan Hearns, Tommy lost his way after the Hagler fight even though he blasted out Schuler a year later, he was easier to hit at middle than at welter, but he was always weaker v an opponent that rushed in compared to one that tried to box because of his reach and amzing jab. Canelo may never become better than Floyd in the ring but he can outdo his achievements by beating Callum Smith at super-middle, also Floyd P4P was far better than Hearns was by `88 and Canelo would have toyed with Barkley.
     
  15. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good point. No Barkley never was better than Hearns, but he had a style which worked well with Hearns style of going for broke later on. Herans was reckless later in his career. But after Barkley 1, he got better defensively.