Judging the fight. Living in 2 different worlds

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  1. HellSpawn86

    HellSpawn86 "My heart goes out to you!" Full Member

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    I was a former amateur boxer and I and everyone in my gym thought it was a close fight. I watched the fight at a friends house and it was in french, so I couldn't understand a darn thing from the commentary.

    I thought it would have been a draw, but either fighter winning was reasonable. I thought the early rounds were messy, too much holding from both guys, a lot of smothered punches and work. There were only a few clear rounds from Kovalev early because he landed the bigger punches, but there wasn't a whole lot of action. Starting around round 5 Ward started finding his rhythm and edged out the action in nearly every round. Ward landed the much bigger shots and stunned Kovalev on several occasions.

    When I came to the board it sounded as if this was the worst robbery in history. Far from it. Gotta say all my gym folks were split on the verdicts, but we thought it was fair.

    I'm Latino, I had no dog in this race. Just looking for a good fights and I'm looking forward to the rematch.
     
  2. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    I guess being aggressive, controlling the fight etc etc mean nothing any more, it used to be that to beat the champ, you have to take his belts, now it's you have to run and pot shot or grab and hit on breaks wins the belts.

    That's bull and you know it, Ward did do well from rounds 6-9 and i'd edge him 11, but that's it. He did nothing in 12, he did not much in 10, he was hurt in the first 5 rounds and in trouble, he was always on the back foot, his ''big shots'' had no effect, yes Kovs head snapped back a few times as fighters do, bt Kov answered it with his own.

    Joke score.
     
  3. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nothing in 12? So what did Kovalev do in rd 12? In the first 10 seconds he lands a clean left hook, at 2:30 in the rd he lands another left hook. Lands body shots at 2:05, nice short left hook at 1:23. Nice body shot at 1:05 from Ward. Kovalev lands a good body shot too but Ward clearly landed the better shots, before the bell Ward lands a very nice body shot.
     
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  4. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    You have way too much time on your hand to dissect a few clips of your fighter to justify a decision.
    I don't have the time stamps to say when and where, I have what I saw, I did see Ward do ''some'' nice work, and then get completely bullied and backed up, and hurt again by Kov, he ate some jabs and bodywork of his own in that last round, so the 4 or 5 time stamps you are cheering for don't make up for him being backed up, hurt in the face hit in the kidney, busted in the solar plexus and eating jabs till the bell.

    That ''shot'' before the bell also was blocked by the elbow, that's the problem people assume things land when they don't, and it isn't about what you land all the time either, it's how you control the fight, Ward was nullified throughout and hurt all the time, Kov was never hurt, he did take a couple of shots in 12 rounds of fighting where he was caught off balance or moving, but didn't hurt him at all. No matter how you slice this, even if you want to give him round 12, Ward was beaten and comfortably.
     
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  5. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I have way too much time says the guy who just wrote 2 paragraphs lmfao. SO in other words you don't want to argue with facts, just with what you remembered from what 12 hours ago? You're a clown.

    No matter how you slice this, even if you want to give him round 12, Ward was beaten and comfortably.

    Nope, I had Ward winning 3, 5, 6, 7, 8 ,9, 11, 12, with 6 and 12 being close. I can see Kov taking 6 and 12, but also Ward taking 4, and 10.
     
  6. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    wow.....

    Yes because studying each and every second of the round, writing it down and coming to a forum is normal behaviour for an unpaid ''fan'' compared to a few paragraphs that take maybe 70 seconds to type.... great perspective, as good as your scoring perspective, at least you are consistent if somewhat distorted with reality.
     
  7. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    Seriously people should be made to post their pics here, and then have an IQ test and a threat to society test, that way I wouldn't have to waste my time with most and I wouldn't have to make them look this bad and possibly endanger those in their communities when I expose their creepy antics.
     
  8. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I didnt study anything, I simply spent 3 minutes casually re-watching the rd while browsing the forum and pointed out some shots landed because you said Ward did NOTHING. I'm sure I missed plenty of shots that Ward landed. But sure make this about my "behavior" because you have no argument.
     
  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    How are you talking about IQ tests with that awful sentence structure LOL. I embarrassed you that's why you're going on some little tirade self claiming that you made someone "look bad", when you've wrote like 5 paragraphs in this one thread after calling other people creepy for re-watching a 3 minute round casually.
     
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  10. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    Apparently I and 90% who watched the fight have '' no argument'', what kind of deluded creepy pervert are you?
    Casually rewatched 1 round so he can say Ward deserved the fight while jotting down every single aspect of the round..... jesus lol, I bet that's not all you casually watch :babeando::b2::facepalm::eusa_liar:
     
  11. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    I'm on my smart phone so to hold down a button and waste more time on you when I can just bully you is not befitting of someone of my standing, you're a horrrific typer yourself and probably have a laptop and no excuse my feeble minded pedantic creepy woebegone :facepalm::qmeparto::qmeparto:
     
  12. ellerbe

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    Who is 90%? The little g tards?
    Every single aspect? No, I actually didn't note any of Ward's jabs etc, just the telling blows, because you said he did nothing. Just take your loss, and move along.
     
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  13. ellerbe

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    LOL, you're on your smartphone, yet you typed all of this up in one thread. You really do have issues projecting. I like how badly I've gotten to you, and how in your delusional mind that you're thinking that you're "bullying me", while I'm laughing at how angry you are.

    I guess being aggressive, controlling the fight etc etc mean nothing any more, it used to be that to beat the champ, you have to take his belts, now it's you have to run and pot shot or grab and hit on breaks wins the belts.

    That's bull and you know it, Ward did do well from rounds 6-9 and i'd edge him 11, but that's it. He did nothing in 12, he did not much in 10, he was hurt in the first 5 rounds and in trouble, he was always on the back foot, his ''big shots'' had no effect, yes Kovs head snapped back a few times as fighters do, bt Kov answered it with his own.

    Joke score.

    You have way too much time on your hand to dissect a few clips of your fighter to justify a decision.
    I don't have the time stamps to say when and where, I have what I saw, I did see Ward do ''some'' nice work, and then get completely bullied and backed up, and hurt again by Kov, he ate some jabs and bodywork of his own in that last round, so the 4 or 5 time stamps you are cheering for don't make up for him being backed up, hurt in the face hit in the kidney, busted in the solar plexus and eating jabs till the bell.

    That ''shot'' before the bell also was blocked by the elbow, that's the problem people assume things land when they don't, and it isn't about what you land all the time either, it's how you control the fight, Ward was nullified throughout and hurt all the time, Kov was never hurt, he did take a couple of shots in 12 rounds of fighting where he was caught off balance or moving, but didn't hurt him at all. No matter how you slice this, even if you want to give him round 12, Ward was beaten and comfortably.

    wow.....

    Yes because studying each and every second of the round, writing it down and coming to a forum is normal behaviour for an unpaid ''fan'' compared to a few paragraphs that take maybe 70 seconds to type.... great perspective, as good as your scoring perspective, at least you are consistent if somewhat distorted with reality.

    Seriously people should be made to post their pics here, and then have an IQ test and a threat to society test, that way I wouldn't have to waste my time with most and I wouldn't have to make them look this bad and possibly endanger those in their communities when I expose their creepy antics.
     
  14. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    More ad hominem from a guy that couldn't create a unique user name nor capitalise it lolz and now you are claiming that because I posted something you rewatched the round and marked down ''telling blows'' clearly you have accountability issues and some underlining social issues that is causing you distress.

    I would love to see your Facebook, I have a clear image of a portly looking Patton Oswalt with a few acquaintances and many irrelevant boxing posts. lolz:sisi1:taptap:
     
  15. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    I am not reading this ridiculous spiel from a creepy old timer.... what the hell you gone full crazy with this giant paragraph LOL you need to calm down, stick a VHS on or something old man.