Judging them on RESUME ONLY, who is top of the three - JONES, HOPKINS or TONEY?

Nah I was just messin around but imo I hold Jones resume in a higher regard because head to head he beat Hopkins and like I said he fought much bigger men ..We can break down each win for both men but imo Jones has the better resume and legacy ..

 

The diffrence is Jones holds wins over Toney and Hopkins what could be in debate is who would rate after Jones Toney or Bhop ?

 

in case you didnt know roy beat bernard 'with one hand'.... and it was dominant...and i never said a complete shut out.

 

Toney by a landslide, or by a belly and a half...

 

James Toney was too inconsistent, and has two too many embarassing performances to be listed as number one, such things should counted in resumes.


1) Jones - Everyone he beat was either a clear win or a dominating performance ( save for Tarver ), which include Hopkins and Toney. Titles at MW and SMW, cleared out LHW for the most part, and then a title at HW.

2) Toney - Even with his embarassing performances his best wins can't be overlooked. Not many resumes can boast quality wins over the likes of Nunn, McCallum, Jirov, and Johnson. And not many would be able to effectively compete from MW all the way up to HW.. not even Jones.

3) Hopkins - Cleared out the MW division, and collected all four major titles, then moved up and beat the ring champion at LHW. Great accomplishments, but I'd definitely say he's had more " name " wins than really great wins like Jones or Toney.

 

Still Jones.

 

Jones.

With wins over Toney, Hopkins, Tarver, Ruiz, Woods, Gonzalez, Malinga, Reggie Johnson, McCallum and Griffin he is slightly ahead of the typically weight advantaged Hopkins resume. Guys like Oscar and Trinidad weren't great wins at MW, just famous ones.

 

The fact that they were great at a lower weight doesn't make them great wins on a MW's resume. The Tito win was probably the best of his MW career (which says something when your best win is over a smaller fighter moving up), but the De La Hoya win was mediocre at best. The win over Wright at 170 was good, but nothing special. The win over Pavlik at the catchweight was still very good, probably in the same class as the Tito win.

 

Bernard Hopkins because the man is still going strong, so many other reasons to explain why but it would take too long

 

Jones.

I believe post #61 makes the case pretty clearly.


BTW, with all due respect to "Lights Out," he doesn't belong with the other two.

 

RJJ, he easily beat the other two. And, those aren't even his best wins.