Judo Combined with Western Boxing?

not good enough to avoid kicks.

 

**** off Johnstown

 

Once you get kicked in the leg by a guy that knows how to kick, you may change your mind.

 

You can get kicked in other places too.

I'd agree with your basic conceit that judo and boxing is a good base for martial arts. one would have to supplement that with some kind of muay thai/kicking training as well as jiujitsu to round out their submissions.

 

Yeah, Ray Mercer is a pretty tough guy, but one kick to the head by an elite kicker, and he said **** it.

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As long as you have enough looks at certain kicking styles, Judo is fine. The biggest hurdle is understanding a kicker has great range and will use blind angles. See how Ray got caught with that? Probably never saw a kick like that in his life.

A judoka should understand this and with boxing would be able to control middle and inside fighting. Of course, trick is going to be protecting ones own legs with that combination of skills, but I think it would be very viable so long as whoever it is has good power and actually has some talent with Judo.

 

Good base, but I've had a different experience with kickboxing than you. That is, guys I've totally owned in boxing the round before totally turn it around when they're allowed to kick. Throws off distance and timing.

Also, as has been discussed on here a million times, a lot of judo throws either require the gi or are very difficult to do without it since the unbalancing and momentum you need is harder to generate and control if you don't have a gi to yank on. You'll learn subs and balance and all that, but a lot of the offense won't work nearly as well without a gi on.

I guess I'd say that it'd be better to have some functionality kicking and be comfortable taking kicks than to be better strictly punching and better to base grappling on methods that don't require and practice with a gi.

That is, kickboxing and wrestling.

 

Yep, there's some good no gi judo out there but throws tend to come with control and timing. Harder to control without the gi, but not impossible, and I don't think it's been given it's fair do.. BJJ is doing just fine, and it is still being refined with and without the gee. If Judo is given the same chance, you would likely see it a bit more. Being able to control the middle and inside is enough for a mauling style. Those two are a great combination and sync well together.