Julian Jackson - Did Anyone Ever Take Flush Bombs...

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  1. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    McCallum got hurt early but walked through the fire to stop him in the 2nd, although as TGA says, he was using defenc he wasnt exactly walking in getting hit easy.
     
  2. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I love Jules Jackson as much as anyone who swings for the fence, but Jackson had average boxing skills at best and, he never really panned out at 160, regardless of winning a title there........

    I may be off a tad here but, I also do not think his wallop was as potent at 160 either....

    And them two KO losses to "G-Man" in 1994 or so HAUNTS the **** outta Jackson's career.......

    J.J. was a great whacker and a good fighter, but I believe he falls short of being a solid Hall of Famer........

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  3. sitiyzal

    sitiyzal ................. Full Member

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    There was one hard left hook Jackson caught McClellan with which jolted his head back yet didn't hurt him, tho it didn't really hit the spot.
     
  4. globenerd

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    He's definitely a HOFer. He's not on anyone's all-time p4p list for sure, but definitely a HOFer. I agree with whoever posted earlier about top 5 power punchers in history. I think he might even be No. 1. Just freakish what he did to guys when he connected flush. Terry Norris was 10 times the boxing talent he was, but he got in that one shot and ... BANG! It was all over. Same with Graham. What made it even more exciting is that he didn't have that great of a chin himself either. So you watched his fights on the edge of your seat from the opening bell because you knew someone was getting the lights turned out on them. I loved, absolutely loved watching that guy fight. I won't argue with anyone about him being an ATG, but that won't change the fact that he was one of my all time favorites. And definitely top 5 KO power.
     
  5. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What also kills Jackson's chances of being a true "Haller" is, he fought too often on King's PPV undercards' of the 1990s and or in small venue's in front of a sparse crowd........ Jackson never sold the show by himself like a true star does......... All that will kill him in the voting..... IMO!!

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  6. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Once he got older those results weren't there and he clipped guys and couldn't finish them--guys like aguilar. And those losses to guys like Taylor/Jones/Phillips when he'd catch them once but couldn't really close the show.

    And an awful lot of those ko's did come against guys with a history of being stopped. Not anywhere near as many ko's when he fought the guys that were tough to stop.
     
  7. MRBILL

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    Jackson was one of them dude's that excelled at his optimum weight of 154....... Once he moved to 160, he was still a puncher, but not as wicked......... What a difference a little age and 6 pounds can make.......... Peace.....

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  8. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Where you actually picking some of those guys to beat him at 154? Not very many deserved a title shot and there certainly were other names around at the time to fight instead.
     
  9. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In the late 80s and early 90s, nobody at 154 was gonna beat Jackson........ By 1993 and at 160, Jackson was changing........ Jackson proved beatable at 160.......

    Again, I like J.J., but I have a tuff time picking him for IBHOF induction......

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  10. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    If Tito Trinidad is being considered a borderline ATG then not considering Julian Jackson for the hall of fame is unjustifiable IMO.
     
  11. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Jackson was an amazing bomber he fought at 154 to 160 ... now here is some perspective ... a prime Sam Langford weighted close to the same and had the power to flatten the best of the heavyweights ... now that is amazing ... even though he put on weigh to fight at heavyweight, that was more a matter of not struggling to make weight if he did not have to ...

    Gunboat Smith and Jim Flynn, both of whom fought Dempsey, said no one hit close to Langford ... so did Wills, McVey, Jeannette and Johnson ... the man was the all time hardest hitting pound for pound king.
     
  12. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Jackson's power declined along with his eyes and balance imo, he just couldnt deliver with leverage as consistently as he had been able to..I wouldn't hold those later results against him too much zadfrak.Jackson post-G-man especially, was not a good fighter anymore.
     
  13. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not true at all. He was actually a fine boxer-puncher, particularly early in his career. Not stand-out technically, but very solid and and a well timed puncher. It's not like he was a Bob Satterfield.
     
  14. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Anyone know anything about how Julian's son is progressing in the AMs?
     
  15. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Satterfield was actually a decent counter puncher when he wanted to be. Not 90% of the time though.

    Didn't two of his sons already turn pro? John and Julius.