Julian Jackson vs Antonio Margarito

If McCallum was the greatest technician of all time he wouldn't have gotten out-classed by Kalambay in a one-sided boxing exhibition. You overrate him badly. Great fighter, but he wasn't quite on the level of a Hagler, Leonard, Duran, etc.

He's still levels above Margarito nonetheless. As has been said, even in a P4P sense Cotto's chin isn't any better than Jackson's, and considering the fight is at 154, not only would Margarito would not be as effective, but his own durability comes into question moreso, and he'd be running into shots non-stop early on. No way he weathers that storm with the style he fights with. Terrible matchup for him. He's going down early.

 

He was known as one of the hardest punching MW's as well. Moreso than a guy like Pavlik has ever proved. Pavlik hasn't even proven to be a harder puncher than a guy like Hagler.

Comparing Jackson's power to Cotto's when Santos wobbled Margo...:rofl

 

Says you, with the golden era's nutsack buried firmly down your throat.

Did I compare the two? No I didn't.

 

Hold on, did Ambition_Def just call someone else out for being a nuthugger?atsch

You said that Jackson would be ineffective by claiming that no puncher would have any effect on Margarito(at least to the outcome of the fight), when we've seen a significantly lesser puncher already wobble and hurt him. So what do you base that asinine claim on? His fight with Cotto?

By claiming Jackson would have no effect on him or that this style of fighter isn't the one to beat him, you're basically saying that Margarito is invulnerable to any puncher. And calling him a poor man's Tito more or less just shows your ignorance and lack of knowledge.

 

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I go with the first guy. Compact ONE PUNCH ko power in either hand. Punches way shorter, way more accurate. Margarito has no defense..........he gets put to sleep. SLEEP. Not TKO...SLEEP.

 

How did those 3 seconds benefit Santos? Do you think he benefitted more from that glimmer of hope than he did his 170lb frame, which was absorbing bodyshot after bodyshot?

Even when Santos hurt Tony he did not stop attacking. He kept it up despite that left hook. It was a solid shot and Santos is no light hitter. Keep acting like he isn't when the truth says otherwise. It just makes you look stupid.

Jackson's style would play right into Tony's hands. You still don't seem to get it. Punchers who load up on everything, offer up their chins and bodies, are prey for Margarito. The man eats punches like pez. Cotto was not a one punch guy but he rearranged faces. Lets not try and discredit what he could do to a guy's face post-Margarito. Don't be like that idiot TFFP. Use your head. Cotto could not put a dent on Margarito much less cut or hurt. All he managed to do was bruise his eyes.

Sure Jackson was a ridiculously hard puncher. That would be beneficial to about 90% of the worlds competition both elite and non elite. It just so happens that huge power means dick against a huge chin.

 

Tony would have start quickly, or else, he'd be KO'd, and early. Jackson's power was scary.

 

I'm an idiot for suggesting that one of the greatest punchers in history at 154 and a damn concussive puncher at 160 could actually knock out Margarito at 154?

What, and stating obvious facts like Margarito hasn't fought ANYBODY even close to Jackson's power?

****ing hell you are delusional beyond belief.

 

This is cool. A thread to talk **** about Margarito. Hey someone make a Margarito vs Ernie Shavers thread. ****ing idiots.

 

You are an idiot because prior to the Cotto fight you talked alot of **** about how Cotto was going to cut Margarito down. Now in hindsight I guess he wasn't much of a puncher, right? You can't be taken seriously the way you flip flop. You clearly register as an idiot hater.

 

Ofcourse not,,, there have been others that have went the distance with jackson

 

No, Cotto is still a good puncher. Not the best at welter, but a good puncher nonetheless

Everybody gets picks wrong and Margarito did a great job.

That said, Jackson is a completely different task altogether. We are talking about a huge puncher at 154 and 160 here, not just a good accumulative puncher at welterweight.

 

I look stupid? I'm not the one insinuating that if someone could take a punch from Daniel Santos, they could take one from Jackson. Nobody said Santos was feather-fisted, but he is has not, has never been, nor will ever be in the same realm of punching power that Jackson was. The two are incomparable, and you acting as if Jackson's shots would be ineffective despite the fact that Santos hurt him is just laughable.

And Cotto at 147 is similar to Jackson at 154 as a puncher in what way? Your arguments are embarassingly simplistic.

Margarito offers his chin up just as often as the punchers, and not to mention Jackson always fought with a high, tight guard. He wasn't just some winging brawler, he was at least as technically skilled as a guy like Margarito. If Margarito thinks he can push or press Jackson, or eat his shots like he did Cotto's it would be a short night for him.

That may be the case if Margarito were invinceable, unfortunately for you we've seen that he's not, even when it comes to punching power, and from a far lesser puncher at that. Sorry, taking Cotto's shots doesn't prove a goddamn thing when Julian Jackson is thrown into the mix.

 

We are also talking about a guy who was just as shaky as Cotto, who was also bigger and far less elusive. If you bank on his power getting it done against Margarito you better not be betting the farm.